St Patrick's Day

[IainC]

Funnily enough, I haven't seen any moaning about the event rewards but there sure seems to be a lot of moaning about moaning. Maybe for the next gift event, I should start a thread pre-emptively moaning about the moaner moaners?

[Urd123]

It seems some would take free stuff no matter what the occasion, as long as it is free.

This lack of empathy with what a special day may mean to some of us, from both players and BB makes me depressed. If it does not mean anything to you then why insult other people.
I have nothing against Sct Patricks day, but the celebration of this day cant help making me wonder, about any other country's national day. If BB should celebrate them all they would have to be very busy.
I would think every country in the world have a national day. What about the Chinese new year ? where to start and where to stop ? Why is the Irish national day more important than the Danish, Spanish or Norwegian? Or any other country for that matter

[Fuseboy]

I was just wondering if any Irish players are gonna start complaining about free stuff on a day that most of us dont know much about?

thb i don't understand women and so i really dont understand why all the hassle over last free stuff we had.

maybe bb could put a refuse/accept button on these mails and see who actually doesn't want free stuff?

ty bb

You are entirely missing the point those women were trying to make. The point was not to complain about getting free stuff. The point was that the gifts could be viewed as reinforcing a sexist stereotype. A very real stereotype that holds real women back in their real lives in important ways. This is not a frivolous complaint. Reinforcing a power dynamic that disenfranchises women has, inadvertently or not, upset some PEOPLE. (Pro tip: Women are people as well as men.)

Here is a (sexist) example that might help you understand. You get your wife a vacuum cleaner for Christmas. Now do you know why she is upset? You are telling her she is just good for cleaning the house.

Not that this is relevant, but -- My personal view is that BB did a very nice job of pointing out the powerful women in the game and adding more is a great step forward. It is a far cry from equal representation but I think it is great that they acknowledged this day and are taking steps to add more female characters to the game. I also personally believe any slight was inadvertent, but inadvertent ones matter too. (There is a word for it: microaggression.)

I don't see anyone connecting the two events because they are entirely different. Maybe it would be different if say, BB gave only Brew to everyone and reinforced a stereotype of the Irish as being useless drunkards. Not good, right? But you know, I am not Irish, so I could be wrong on this, and if an Irish person said the gifts given were offensive, I would like to learn about why so I can understand better.

You seem more interested in complaining about the complainers than trying to understand their experience and point of view. Everyone on this planet knows something you don't, just like you know things that I do not. Let's try and be friendly and have open minds and learn from each other.

[queen-vicious]

nicely put fuseboy
Thanks for the goodies BB

[qawpaw]

ty bb

[Urd123]

Thank you Very well said

You are entirely missing the point those women were trying to make. The point was not to complain about getting free stuff. The point was that the gifts could be viewed as reinforcing a sexist stereotype. A very real stereotype that holds real women back in their real lives in important ways. This is not a frivolous complaint. Reinforcing a power dynamic that disenfranchises women has, inadvertently or not, upset some PEOPLE. (Pro tip: Women are people as well as men.)

Here is a (sexist) example that might help you understand. You get your wife a vacuum cleaner for Christmas. Now do you know why she is upset? You are telling her she is just good for cleaning the house.

Not that this is relevant, but -- My personal view is that BB did a very nice job of pointing out the powerful women in the game and adding more is a great step forward. It is a far cry from equal representation but I think it is great that they acknowledged this day and are taking steps to add more female characters to the game. I also personally believe any slight was inadvertent, but inadvertent ones matter too. (There is a word for it: microaggression.)

I don't see anyone connecting the two events because they are entirely different. Maybe it would be different if say, BB gave only Brew to everyone and reinforced a stereotype of the Irish as being useless drunkards. Not good, right? But you know, I am not Irish, so I could be wrong on this, and if an Irish person said the gifts given were offensive, I would like to learn about why so I can understand better.

You seem more interested in complaining about the complainers than trying to understand their experience and point of view. Everyone on this planet knows something you don't, just like you know things that I do not. Let's try and be friendly and have open minds and learn from each other.

It has made me really depressed to lean how many people just did not get it. I got even more depressed to see how you can get a discussion closed if you dont agree or just think it is fun to put stupid remarks.

[Xibor]

Lol Even if BB just called it `Happy Friday', someone would complain that it got more or less than the previous `Happy Thursday' and that Happy Monday wasn't recognised at all for its significant contribution to the start of the week.

That is SO true, and very well put

[Urd123]

That is SO true, and very well put

You still dont get that it is not about the stuff we get or does not get. I could not care less about it. I never remember to use it anyway and it does not really matter. It bothers me more that we cant not get it by not accepting or declining it. I can delete it - but I would still have received it then.

When BB decides to celebrate something they make a political statement that that day for some reason is important in some way. If I for some private reason does not agree with the signal they sent - I want to be able to say no.
That said I have absolutely nothing against st Patrick's day, or the stuff sent on that occasion, but I can understand why people from lots of other countries would say that their national day is just as important as the Irish.

[ChapterIX]

Perhaps if people feel strongly about it, raise a suggestion to opt out of in-game promotions which includes these particular style of rewards.

[Xibor]

You still dont get that it is not about the stuff we get or does not get. I could not care less about it. I never remember to use it anyway and it does not really matter. It bothers me more that we cant not get it by not accepting or declining it. I can delete it - but I would still have received it then.

When BB decides to celebrate something they make a political statement that that day for some reason is important in some way. If I for some private reason does not agree with the signal they sent - I want to be able to say no.
That said I have absolutely nothing against st Patrick's day, or the stuff sent on that occasion, but I can understand why people from lots of other countries would say that their national day is just as important as the Irish.

I think you still don't get it.
I can't believe people react so much about such things. It's the over reaction I'm mentioning.