Hello guys, name is Roy AKA Winterburn,
I would hereby share with you my thoughts and calculations about the current gold production in TSO, ive been in the game for quite some time now and i never really came around to the gold production as i didnt think it was that appealing and i just coudnt get the materials together to get it running.
After i ran alot of other productions and went into the trading aspect of the game i finally had enough excessive materials to start thinking about it and after downrating it for the entire time i finally came around to doing some math about it, the following is what i think is correct.
I am not taking in consideration the materials going into actually building the chains, upgrading them etc, but as you might find out its all quite insignificant in the long run.
Given the fact im buying refills for 150gc each, this is based according to that. What im trying to find out is if i will break even with 500 gold ore deposits ones i reproduce them into coins, or if it is profitable, orrr that im basically losing income, and if so, how much?
English isnt my langauge so i hope everyone taking the time to read this that i can make myself clear.
Ok here we go,
Abbrifications: GO = Gold ore, C = Coal, GB = Gold Bars, GC = Gold coins.
P = Productions.
* Gold refill deposit: 500 gold ore = 500 Gold Ore.
Level 1 Smelter Unbuffed: 2 GO + 8 C = 1 GB.
Level 1 Coinage Unbuffed: 4 GB = 1 GC
Math Smelter lvl1: 500GO : 2 = 250P x 1 = 250GB.
Math Coinage lvl1: 250GB : 4 = 62,5P x 1 = 62,5GC.
Math Smelter lvl1 Buffed: 500GO : 2 = 250P x 2 = 500GB.
Math Coinage lvl1 Buffed: 500GB : 4 = 125P x 2 = 250GC.
That would mean 100GC profit, 250GC-150GC refill = 100GC.
Now as everyone knows buffing will double your production without increasing it needs, you should always buff your chains which you are in need off, now taken that gold production is the highest and hardest chain to maintain it is something you should always have buffed or else it will mean severe losses in profit.
I was doing these calculations and i needed someone to varify them so i asked li_lon, and he came with something i did NOT take in consideration as alot of people do. i thought buffing a goldmine would just mean it would produce faster, but in fact it acts like it does on buildings it doubles the income and doesnt make it faster.
A 500 goldrefill actually is 1000 gold ore when you keep the mine consistantly buffed, this changes things alot. take note that the level of the mine doesnt matter it doesnt increase the amount just how fast you gain the gold ore at. ( lvl1 mine 500GO:1=500px2(buffed)=1000., lvl2 mine 500GO:2=250px4(buffed)=1000, 500GO:3=166,6666666666667Px6(buffed)=1000 etc )
* Gold Refill Deposit: 500 Gold ore = 1000 Gold Ore.
Level 1 Smelter Unbuffed: 2 GO + 8 C = 1 GB.
Level 1 Coinage Unbuffed: 4 GB = 1 GC
Math Smelter lvl1: 1000GO : 2 = 500P x 1 = 500GB.
Math Coinage lvl1: 500GB : 4 = 125P x 1 = 125GC.
Math Smelter lvl1 Buffed: 1000GO : 2 = 500P x 2 = 1000GB.
Math Coinage lvl1 Buffed: 1000GB : 4 = 250P x 2 = 500GC.
That would mean 350GC profit, 500GC - 150GC refill = 350GC.
So what we've learned is no matter what production you have running, as long as you keep it buffed you will recieve profit.
as far as coal goes, every production will take 8 coal for the smelter, so doing the math on that seperately: 500P x 8C = 4000C is needed to rework 1000GO. 4000 : 400 = 10, so you will need 10 stacks of coal to have it running, u can either produce that yourself or buy that. now coal prices might vairy quite a bit and they drop as time goes by, but i can safely say that we will still have enough profit for the expense of coal. and the price per 1000GO will never be more then 4000coal.
JUST KEEP THE ENTIRE CHAIN BUFFED, OR PAUSED.
Let me make a summary about all the other levels of Smelters and Coinages:
As we keep them buffed ill spare you with the calculations on the unbuffed chain.
the following are based on buffed mines meaning 1000ore farmed.
Level 2 Smelter Unbuffed: 4 GO + 16 C = 2 GB.
Level 2 Coinage Unbuffed: 8 GB = 2 GC.
Level 2 Smelter Buffed: 4 GO + 16 C = 4 GB.
Level 2 Coinage Buffed: 8 GB = 4 GC.
Buffed: 1000GO : 4 = 250P x 4 = 1000GB : 8 = 125P x 4 = 500GC.
Coal : 250P x 16 = 4000c : 400 = 10 stacks of coal.
Level 3 Smelter Unbuffed: 6 GO + 24 C = 3 GB.
Level 3 Coinage Unbuffed: 12 GB = 3 GC.
Level 3 Smelter Buffed: 6 GO + 24 C = 6 GB.
Level 3 Coinage Buffed: 12 GB = 6 GC.
Buffed: 1000GO : 6 = 166,667P x 6 = 1000GB : 12 = 83,33 x 6 = 500GC.
Coal : 166,667p x 24C = 4000C : 400 = 10 stacks of coal.
Level 4 Smelter Unbuffed: 8 GO + 32 C = 4 GB.
Level 4 Coinage Unbuffed: 16 GB = 4 GC.
Level 4 Smelter Buffed: 8 GO + 32 C = 8 GB.
Level 4 Coinage Buffed: 16 GB = 8 GC.
Buffed: 1000GO : 8 = 125P x 8 = 1000GB : 16 = 62,5 x 8 = 500GC.
Coal : 125P x 32C = 4000C : 400 = 10 stacks of coal.
Level 5 Smelter Unbuffed: 10 GO + 40 C = 5 GB.
Level 5 Coinage Unbuffed: 20 GB = 5 GC.
Level 5 Smelter Buffed: 10 GO + 40 C = 10 GB.
Level 5 Coinage Buffed: 20 GB = 10 GC.
Buffed: 1000GO : 10 = 100P x 10 = 1000GB : 20 = 50P x 10 = 500GC.
Coal : 100p x 40c = 4000C : 400 = 10 stacks of coal.
As you see the amount of Profit you make stays the same per 1000GO, yet you produce them faster,
so u can buy parrots with your profit faster, and the cycle goes on.
Hope it Helped, greetings from the sandy cove.
Special thanks to Li_lon.
WB