What is point of building gold mine???

[Fapion]

It's really unbalanced and I think It should be changed, amount of gold ore. Amount of gold ore = 300, it mean, 300 gold ore = 150 gold,
150 gold = 37 coin. Ressorses for building 1 gold mine 1400 hardwood planks, 1400 marble, 1500 tools. All this ressorses have trade value cca 400 = 25 coin, so it mean if you don't build gold mine and just sell ressorses you need to build 1 gold mine you will earn about 270 coin. So when people finally understand this calculation that you get 270 coin instead 37 noone will build gold mine anymore, offc you can buy some gold deposit, but diamonds needed for that again are not worthfull to spear on it. So finally you come to conclution gold mine is usless building in this game. My sugestion would be gold ore must be by deffalt atleast 2000+, 2000 mean you can get 250 coin from 1 gold mine.

[Fapion]

I forgath to mention, allso you need 1 coal by each gold ore to make 1 gold.

[Lymond]

Buff mine, buff smelter, buff coiner. 300 gold = 300 coins. Certainly not great but it's a heck of a lot better than 37.

Maybe it tempts you into using gems to add gold to the mine, then it becomes a better proposition. BB aren't in this to make the game easily playable for absolutely no cost, they need to make a little money out of people to keep the servers running. If you refuse to pay and can't be bothered to buff, just sell the tools, hwp and marble to someone who is.

[Fapion]

buff haven't anything with amount of ressourses you get from it, and 300 gold isn't 300 coins, coinage use 4 gold to make 1 coin. I do understand they need some money income to keep servers live, but what Im saying is "gold mine" is usless, noone will build it, noone will buy gems to use deposit on it, so it doesn't halp to anyone, even players, even game/server owners.

[sparkz]

buff haven't anything with amount of ressourses you get from it, and 300 gold isn't 300 coins, coinage use 4 gold to make 1 coin.

One mine buffed for the time it exists is a total of 600 ore, that is 600 gold bars from a buffed smelter, that is 300 coins from buffed coinage.

what Im saying is "gold mine" is usless, noone will build it, noone will buy gems to use deposit on it, so it doesn't halp to anyone, even players, even game/server owners.

give the server enough time and everyone will be building these, as the demand for gold will grow exponentially, and the supply will get thinner and thinner long as people keep levelling up.

[Murkar]

So even fully buffed, with everything working at full capacity, instead of selling the materials, you will make around 30gold from your investment difference. And thats before you factor in the resources and time needed to make everything. Is the benefit of 30 gold out weighing that of having a building slot? Especially as doing 20 mins of trading on the trade board can make you 30 gold. I agree with Fapian, the investment required for the making of the gold mine is not worth the time or effort you would get out of it.

[sparkz]

If noone builds the mines, the only source you can get money from on trade are newer players, perhaps few coins here and there if you send your explorers on treasure hunts. You can trust me if I say this doesnt cover even 10% of the gold average player will need for upgrades and other stuff.

You also dont factor the demand for specific materials, the fact that you can find a trade offer with 30 coins in exchange for 400 marble (hypothethically), that does only mean that you can make 30 coins once. You cant expand it into thinking that if you have 4000 marble, you will straight up gain 300 coins, and that you can do it every day the same way for the same price. Thats pretty obvious as those materials youre talking about is what every single player above level 17 can produce, and apart from some specific situations theres absolutely no reason anyone would buy them, let alone make such trade a viable way of making gold for literally hundreds of players.

That + limited amount of gold from quests brings us back to what I posted before, sooner or later everyone will swallow the cost of the mines and start producing coins themselves.

[Drarious]

i do see what he means abotu it not being worth it, but i do agree everyone will have to build it sooner or later. the way i see it for the moment or how i suspect it will be, the newer players will flood the market with gold and the higher lvl player (35+) will also do this... as they will be the only ones who have the resorces and capability's to get a gold mine working regually. But it is a bit off a perculiar one.... as if you look in the treasure find thread (quoted here) 6H Treasure Hunt

25 Fir wood planks 20.7%
100 Fir wood planks 10.4%
5 Hardwood planks 10.4%
20 Hardwood planks 5.2%
25 Stone 20.7%
100 Stone 10.4%
5 Marble 10.4%
20 Marble 5.2%
10 Coins 4.1%
25 Coins 2.1%
50 Coins 0.5%


12H Treasure Hunt

200 Hardwood planks 27%
350 Hardwood planks 13.5%
200 Marble 27%
350 Marble 13.5%
25 Coins 5.4%
50 Coins 2.7%
150 Iron ore 2.7%
250 Iron ore 1.4%
50 Exotic wood logs 2.7%
100 Granite 1.4%
50 Granite 2.7%

Really it again comes down too, will you get extra buffs ect from the shop and or just explorers, and use them to find gold for you. along with other mats to spend... in my opinion i think they should make it bigger, or gold bars cheapers to make. say 1 gold ore too 1 gold bar. but to make gold coins you need 2 or 3 gold bars or something... you dont get as much gold again but you get more. which benifits those who cant buff buildings constantly.

[Fapion]

sparkz I get youre point but still I'm based on selling ressorses instead building gold mine. Most of my account I builded on trade, specially early game when poeople didn't understand really value of some resursses (I mean it is point of good trader), I overpass from bronze swords to steal swords,got only 1 bowmaker and 1 longbowmaker unupgraded, no stable, between I just made trade, now every day I'm selling over 2k marble, hwp and tools beside other ressurses, and it's really easy trade 400=25 coin (30 coin for people with more pation). Im earning daily about 300-400 gold just on selling this same ressurses needed for building gold mine.

[sparkz]

Im earning daily about 300-400 gold just on selling this same ressurses needed for building gold mine.

Im not saying you dont, im saying you cant put it as "this is a reliable way of making money everyone can use". Making coins is, and its probably a good idea to realize it and start preparing your (your as in all players) production to handle building the mines in later stages of the game.