Are you sure you placed them at the exact same place the picture shows ? Or maybe the bhg left the camp too late due to lag ?Originally Posted by lordpinky
i have never seen this block go wrong unless i made a mistake
Are you sure you placed them at the exact same place the picture shows ? Or maybe the bhg left the camp too late due to lag ?
i have never seen this block go wrong unless i made a mistake
I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that you are only suppose to block with normal gens the slow ones. You are not suppose to block with fast gens aka bh or vet.
I have run the adventure many times with a vet gen tho and never had any problems.
Hope this helps
Ofc it did, the reaper (Grim Reaper) isn't a normal general, it is a fast one, it will fight twice as fast so will win or lose battles in half time.
Do not use Grim Reaper, Battle Hardened Generals or Veteran generals for blocks unless the guides specifically ask you to (and they won`t). These 3 are fast fighting generals, besides their capacity of travelling between islands in half time, they will fight rounds twice as fast splitting fighting time in half. As the point of a block is to LAST and not be short, again, DO NOT USE them.
Last edited by Polymer; 01.02.13 at 11:49.
ah that must be it then! i didn't realize that reaper also fights faster than a normal gen. i thought he just recovered and traveled faster!
so whenever they ask for a fast general in adventures, i can also use reaper instead of battle hardened one?! thats good to know :-)
thanks!
For those with no cannoneers I did some sims in relation to this block and wondered why you came up with the settings you did?
Island of the Pirates
Veteran and maximum number of round blocks
Average Losses (best version): 217R
Garrison Position G4 with Cannoneers (Camps 7-10, BLOCK)
If you do not have cannoneers, or do not have a battle hardened general, there is a somewhat risky version included here too.
If you don't like risks, maybe you shouldn't be here in the first place. If you have already killed camp 8, skip this part anyway.
Move your normal generals to garrison position G4.
Your veteran should still be correctly positioned.
- Position A: NORMAL general
- Position B: NORMAL general
- Position C: NORMAL general
- Position D: VETERAN general or VETERAN general (risky one)
Send all four generals right after each other:
From A to Camp 7) 90 Caltrops, 90 Saberrattlers
BLOCKING NORMAL general: [16S 47E (-)] {140-260 seconds of fighting}
From B to Camp 8) 30 Caltrops, 100 Deckscrubbers, 40 Gunmen
BLOCKING NORMAL general: [62E 1B (-)] {140-200 seconds of fighting}
From C to Camp 9) 100 Caltrops, 70 Saberrattlers
BLOCKING NORMAL general: [56E (-)] {140-260 seconds of fighting}
BLOCKING NORMAL general: [14S 44E (-)] {140-260 seconds of fighting}
From D to Camp 10) 100 Saberrattlers, 70 Gunmen, 10 Petty Officers, 1 Crazy Cook
VETERAN general: [150R 100S (137R - 145R - 150R)] {40 seconds of fighting}
VETERAN general: [98R 3M 149K (83R - 90R - 98R 3M)] {20-30 seconds of fighting}
VETERAN general: [67M 1E 182K (57M - 62M - 67M)] {20 seconds of fighting}
Camp 8 will be attacked first, just before camp 7 is attacked. If sent right after each other, the remaining marching time for the veteran, from the moment when general B starts his fight on camp 8, till he reaches camp 10 is about 100-105 seconds. Thus, 120-135 seconds would normally be needed. The block on camp 8 lasts at least 140 seconds and the block on camp 7 normally lasts at least 160 seconds. However, since the attack on camp 10 may last 2 rounds (30 seconds with cannoneers), and since the timing is tight, I cannot guarantee that you will never lose any valuable troops on these blocks. The version with no cannoneers is always going to be quite risky, and I hope you are aware of this!
I used:
Gen A = 58E
Gen B = 61E
Gen C = 53E
All of which according to Settlers online tools combat sim give more time, which is especially useful in this block.
Also, for the less risky block,you can load your BH general with a bunch of recruits instead of having Bowman. Maybe that should also be an option for those who don't like spending the extra beer?
Last edited by Harrytipper; 01.02.13 at 14:21.
Yes, you can, the reaper has exactly the same traits as the battle hardened general
Look:
Gen A:
58E gives a 100 sec block time, but
16S 47E gives a 140 sec block time
Gen B:
61E gives a 100 sec time, but
62E 1B gives a 140 sec block time
Gen C:
53E gives a 100 sec time, but
14S 44E gives a 140 sec block time
The difference is the countdown time:
With 5 rounds,
if you win you'll get 5*20 + 40 = 140 sec
if you lose you'll only get 5*20 = 100 sec
hmmmm... maybe some pirate-blocks-research will be fun
Good to know!
Look:
Gen A:
58E gives a 100 sec block time, but
16S 47E gives a 140 sec block time
Gen B:
61E gives a 100 sec time, but
62E 1B gives a 140 sec block time
Gen C:
53E gives a 100 sec time, but
14S 44E gives a 140 sec block time
The difference is the countdown time:
With 5 rounds,
if you win you'll get 5*20 + 40 = 140 sec
if you lose you'll only get 5*20 = 100 sec
hmmmm... maybe some pirate-blocks-research will be fun
Well, I have done the risky version twice and failed, I guess it will be back to the less risky version until I get cannoneers
Uploaded, The Lost Skull and Roaring Bull in front side. Thanks for Tage and PrincessAlly for your guides
Doing my first BK, I want to say something about that mid dark castle block (camp 5 & 6)
BLOCKING NORMAL GENERAL: [1R 8M 1S 190C] huh? 8% failling chance? meh, let's make it better:
We know we fail with 180 sec, we know we fail with 200 sec, so a 0,1% for 180 sec is not important
BLOCKING NORMAL GENERAL: [1R 7M 190C] --> 6% failing chance. (5,97% actually) I'm sure you find a better one Tage, but I will use this for know
So, with VETERAN, after 100 battles, :
4,353R losses without blocks
6R 48M 6S 1,134C losses with blocks
And so, because the losses on the castle are the same, I would recommend the block.
Oh, and you can easily use a normal general for the first wave, 205 sec or 215 sec makes no difference
With 2 BATTLE HARDENED general, there will be some change to let the battle be <219 sec:
BATTLE HARDENED general: [169R (169R)] {2 rounds} = 20 sec
BATTLE HARDENED general: [129R 13M 1S 87E (70R - 116R 1M- 129R 12M)] {5 rounds + 10 rounds countdown} = 150 sec
45 + 20 + 150 = 215 sec
With 2 BATTLE HARDENED general, after 100 battles:
34,419R losses with without blocks
28,533R 121M 6S 1,134C losses with blocks
difference, after 100 battles:
losses without blocks: 5,886R
losses with blocks: 121M 6S 1,134C
And again, I would recommend the block, except when you prefer the S and C over the R of course.
With 1 BATTLE HARDENED general, here some changes:
NORMAL GENERAL: [93R (93R)] {1 round} = 20 sec
BATTLE HARDENED general: [137M 1S 62E (64M - 106M - 136M)] {5 rounds + 10 rounds countdown} = 150 sec
45 + 20 + 150 = 215 sec
With 1 BATTLE HARDENED general, after 100 battles:
34,419R losses with without blocks
9,306R 10,623M 6S 1,134C losses with blocks
difference, after 100 battles:
losses without blocks: 25,113R
losses with blocks: 10,623M 6S 1,134C
Tage, your task: look for mistakes in what I've written here, and get a better blocking setup
Last edited by XiozZe; 03.02.13 at 19:35.
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