It's obvious from your guide that you don't need to kill all leader camps, but I wondered how many XP do you loose by not doing them all? After all I'm the evil tyrant of my island and I am not that unwilling to spill the blood of a few peasants if it will gain me some glory.Originally Posted by bri0sheje
You don't loose many XP. Following my guide you will get about 8k experience, using evilj's guide you will get, from what he says:It's obvious from your guide that you don't need to kill all leader camps, but I wondered how many XP do you loose by not doing them all? After all I'm the evil tyrant of my island and I am not that unwilling to spill the blood of a few peasants if it will gain me some glory.
Max XP: 6.700
Min XP per loss: ~16
Max Losses: 417
Average Losses: 370
which is less than what you're getting with mine.
No one is asking you to use my guide anyway, I just try to take the work from me and other people and put it together to create something better and better, there may also be another even better solution than mine, of course ;D.
The total amount of experience, if I'm not wrong is about 12k anyway... Is it really worth to waste 250 more recruits and 100 precious cavalry units for... Basicly nothing? :] That's not that I don't want you to do that, that's just that it's not worth doing that! (to me)
Last edited by bri0sheje; 07.01.14 at 08:20.
About the typo, it actually seems I'm not going wrong! (http://imageshack.com/a/img18/8287/2fk5.png) (check L1), even though it sounds quite strange to me too to use 2E in this case.. However I'll check it later using the simulator, perhaps the simulator itself suggested it to evilj too :PThanks for your guide!
I summed all troops needed to:
641R + 92
M + 60
S + 341
E + 219
K + 320
C
I also found a typo (from Evil_J)
I think it should be just 1E.
As I don't like using more than 300E, I rather use some S in the last A block. Like..
..that'll be
641
troops needed.
About the rest, it's interesting about using more soldiers rather than elites, but are you sure that A will last as much as how it will last using more elites?
Thank you for your informative answer.
Well, the typo is from Evil_J.. If you add 133 + 2 + 116 = 251
I'm sure that 46S + 136E will last even longer than using Evil_J's 179E in that last A block. It's calculated in simu and tested on liveserver. =)About the rest, it's interesting about using more soldiers rather than elites, but are you sure that A will last as much as how it will last using more elites?
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Last edited by SmurfAsH; 15.03.17 at 12:33.
Indeed, 46S + 136E lasts 7-11 with 8.13 rounds of average (simulating 100000 times) (lasting, so, about 0.6 rounds more than 179E), therefore it's a valuable solution if you don't have many elites :P
Perhaps evilj counted that it was not necessary to have a so long block anyway.. I did it 3 times until now and I've never had even the bar going down :P
About the typo, I'll fix it immediatly, thanks!
NOTE: WORK IN PROGRESS - currently only MAJOR general version. others to come
Other changes to make it look pretty and follow the KILLSTE format also to follow. Any suggestions please mail in-game or PM here
The Black Knights adventure is hard to find and expensive to buy, but play it if you get the chance.
Losses are lower than with Victor the Vicious, but both the loot and the XP are better.
There are already several BK guides available, so I cannot claim this is all mine.
This Guide is a combination of several other guides, Please give respect to those that I took parts from
The Black Knights
Adventure Info:
Player Level: 42+
Difficulty: 9/10
Number of Players: 3
Duration: 8 days
Where to get?: Adventure seek with Explorer or Trader (Shop) for 300 map fragments or 495 gems
Max Troops Needed For Major: 779R 7M 190C 170E 137K Max Losses: 777R
Max Troops needed For Vet: 785R 197C 55S 61XB 111K Max Losses: 785R
XP: apx. 16,700 or 167 Star coin
Garrison Position G1 (BLOCK)
Rearrange your generals in the landing zone according to garrison position G1:
Position A: NORMAL general
Position B: NORMAL general
Position C: Major/VET general
SEND GENERAL B TO CAMP 4 (to be intercepted by camp3) WHEN GENERAL A GET TO THE X ON THE INSERT PICTURE
From A to Camp 2) 100 Soldier Deserters, 100 Bowman Deserters
BLOCKING NORMAL general: [1R 148C 47E (-)]
From B to Camp 4) 100 Militia Deserters, 100 Cavalry Deserters (Camp 3)
BLOCKING NORMAL general: [1R 97E (-)]
From C to Camp 4) 60 Elite Soldier Deserters, 60 Cavalry Deserters, 60 Long-bowman Deserters, 10 Cannoneer Deserters
Major General: [120R 26E 124K (120R)]
Veteran General: [120R 20E 110K (120R)]
YOU CAN INVITE YOUR LOOT SPOT BUYERS ANY POINT AFTER THIS AS LAG FROM HERE ON OUT WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE
Garrison Position G2 (BLOCK)
Rearrange your generals in the landing zone according to garrison position G2:
Position A: NORMAL general
Position B: Major/VET general
From B to Camp 5: 60 Elite Soldier Deserter, 60 Crossbowman Deserter
MAJOR General: [47R 156C 66XB 1E (47R)]]
Veteran General: [47R 163C 1E 39K (47R)]
It's possible to Block Camp 6 (shown below). there is a small chance of failure if you are slow on sending your major general. If you prefer not to block, repeat the set-up for camp 5 as they are the same defending troops
From A to Camp 6: 60 Elite Soldier Deserter, 60 Crossbowman Deserter
BLOCKING Normal General: [7M 190C 1S (-)]
From B to WT1: 60 Elite Soldier Deserters, 60 Cavalry Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters, 10 Cannoneer Deserters
MAJOR General: [133R 1E 136K (133R)]
Veteran General: [133R 17E 100K (133R)]
Garrison Position 3 (G3)
Camp 7: 80 Soldier Deserters, 80 Crossbowman Deserters
MAJOR General: [61R 162C 1E 46K (61R)]
Veteran General: [63R 125C 61XB 1E (63R)]
Camp 8: 100 Cavalry Deserters, 100 Crossbowman Deserters
MAJOR General: [119R 4E 127K (119R)]
Veteran General: [119R 127E (119R)]
Camp 9: 100 Soldier Deserters, 75 Crossbowman Deserters
MAJOR General: [80R 116C 73K (80R)]
Veteran General: [86R 93C 1E 70K (86R)]
Camp 10: 100 Elite Soldier Deserters, 50 Longbowman Deserters
MAJOR General: [83R 100C 1E 86K (83R)]
Veteran General: [84R 79C 1E 86K (84R)]
WT2: 50 Elite Soldier Deserters, 50 Crossbowman Deserters, 25 Cannoneer Deserters, 1 Big Bertha
MAJOR General: [133R 137K (133R)]
Veteran General: [133R 6E 111K (133R)]
Last edited by Lord_Matata; 10.01.14 at 01:53. Reason: To add Vet Troop set-ups
Without cannoneers and max xp version.
Requirements: Vet, Elites and XB's.
Units needed: 555R 301C 10S 15E 120XB (2 Vet, 3 Normal or 1 Vet, 1 BHG, 2 normal)
Units lost: 50C 500~R? 0-8S
Garrison 1
Send all generals after another
A Nor to camp 3: 14e 186C
B Vet/BHG to camp 4: 48r
C Vet to camp 4: 62r 1e 115c 72xb
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C Vet to camp 7: 69R 1E 160C 20XB
Garrison 2
Wait until general A has engaged the fight with camp 9. Once engaged, send B and C.
A Nor to camp 9: 177C
B Nor/Any to camp 10: 59r
C Vet to camp 10: 79r 1e 78c 92xb
Garrison 3
Send both generals after another assure B arrive first.
B Nor/Any to camp 13: 50C
A Vet to camp 13: 108R 10S 2e 70C 60XB
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A Vet to camp 16: 130R 120XB
Last edited by Malhalla; 14.01.14 at 20:47. Reason: fixes
NP YW!Indeed, 46S + 136E lasts 7-11 with 8.13 rounds of average (simulating 100000 times) (lasting, so, about 0.6 rounds more than 179E), therefore it's a valuable solution if you don't have many elites :P
Perhaps evilj counted that it was not necessary to have a so long block anyway.. I did it 3 times until now and I've never had even the bar going down :P
About the typo, I'll fix it immediatly, thanks!
BTW, you may add an alternative to lootspotters..
As this adv might be done to get WPP to lowlevels, they might also want to get all xp out of it..
I found these numbers (and got some tested here on liveserver) from Asiastrings' guide.
camp 10 : 80 Militia Deserters, 80 Crossbowman Deserters
70
or 70XB (-60R)
L4 : 100 Cavalry Deserters, 1 Big Bertha
47
or 40
camp 15 : 90 Recruit Deserters, 80 Crossbowman Deserters
50
or 40
or 40
L6 : 150 Militia Deserters, 1 Big Bertha
W1: 200
W2: 200
Add it as spoiler.. =)
Last edited by SmurfAsH; 08.01.14 at 15:05.
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