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    Quote Originally Posted by BB_Azariel View Post
    You are asking players about their experience with moderation... This is still not a discussion.

    To make this a discussion please make the theme clear, give an objective and constructive opinion and then add a question that will frame the discussion.

    Right now, by asking about people's past experience with moderation, you are encouraging players to complain about moderation... And I'll have to close this again if that happens.

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    Indeed BB_azariel,complaints about mods are not to be encouraged here ,this is not the right trea/place for it.alow me to say that since the day i started here,i can only say congratz to the moderating team and the BB team aswell.I am a admin myself and do also moderation on my own forum(nothing special this forum of mine )so i know wath time it needs and how to behave.No i think we dont need to discuss mod behavior here.That is something we do on support.
    Greetings from Lord_dragonito

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierarzt View Post
    It's not an opinion Dweeble, just simple facts. If people followed the rules, we wouldn't need the moderators.
    cos the only way to not break chat rules is not to use chat .. cos everything can be considered abusive or insulting to someone

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    In the replies since, I'm still not seeing what the big issue here is? Am I just incredibly thick or missing the main post(s) on this?

    Is everyone complaining that there are too many rules in Chat?
    That there are rules at all in chat?
    That the MODS are too strict when it comes to enforcing rules?
    That the MODS are not consistent when it comes to enforcing the rules in chat?

    or some combination?

    I'm just not seeing anything that specifically lays out what the issue is. I hear people talking around it just complaining about rules in chat, but can't seem to get the information as to what specifically is the issue.

    thanks and not trying to start a flame war or anything, just wanted the facts.

    thx


    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey_Man1123 View Post
    I apologize if this has been asked/answered many, many times - but what specifically about the MODS and the chat system itself is the group (large or small) complaining about?

    I generally just lurk in the chat while I wait for stuff to build..and what I generally see are these issues or "violations:"

    - use English only in Global 1
    - no cursing
    - no talk about drugs
    - don't be abusive/be "nice"
    - Reminders to go to Global 7 for trade stuff
    - Reminders to go to your Guild channel if you don't want to follow these rules (or something like that).

    Other than that, what I generally see when I am on are a lot of very friendly conversations between all the players, many of which include the MODs.

    So I'm guessing I am missing something here or am playing at the "wrong" time when these things happen that make all of these players so mad at the MODs/chat.

    Any insight would be appreciated.

    thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukar View Post
    I see no harm in correcting your peers as long as the correction is within the rules.

    The wannabe MODs mostly exist because there are so many (unintentional and intentional) breaking the rules. Aspecially while MOD coverage at times is low.
    Because the MODs are players and BBs have other work to do chats just dont get moderated 24/7.
    Those voids attract wannabe mods just as much as it attracts players using the voids to break 1 or more rules. And once used to correcting your peers the habbit stays.
    Thats is a lot of missinterpretations; If it was one, now and then, that did it, i would understand it, but halve a dozen? always the same wannabe's? What about the rules that they are baracking? span is forbiden, acording with the "rules", and what they do is span, but span in style. And those same wannabe's are the first to call "troll" to any rule bracking sod, in my book that word is an insult, wich by the way, it is also forbiden in the rules that they so happily implore. furder more, who are they to tell anyone off? that same lot of wannabe's when not on "extra offial duties (=pretending to be mods)", are constantly *hugging each other, and again, and againg. more span, ignoring everyone and desqualifying any one that dares not to follow they conversations, some one in this same thread, called them "stupids!" would you belive that?
    If this lot is anything to do with the upcomin figure of "public speacker".....
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    To prevent any futher "missinterpretations" as you call them. Please make your post more readable because i fail to see your point this time.
    Is your referral to the public speaker aimt at me? Or in general?
    Last edited by Nukar; 01.03.12 at 18:29.
    Nevermind I give up

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    the last sentence is a general fealling, meaning that with all these rules that some dont undertand and others dont want to listen to,and others ignore, we are going to have a lot of problems if the public speackers are going to fallow the same line.


    why would i make any refernce at you? or anyone else.
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    K cool,
    Well you quoted me, and i am prt of the public speaking group... So just wanted to check to be sure.
    Nevermind I give up

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    I thought posting a screenshot of the typical 5 minutes of Global-1 on the U.S. server where I also play would contrast just how good we have it here on the Northisle server.
    The problem with that is it is filled with filthy, disgusting and offensive language. It is utterly depraved. That's not including the dozens of recruitment spams and trade spams. Not to mention the walls of text gibberish and religious/political arguments. I am sure that the Mods here would delete it if I posted it for you to see.

    Believe me when I say, the Mod system here is a good thing for all, regardless of it's shortcomings.

    We are a community of users, and as such we have a responsibility to each other.

    Not everyone has the best people skills, but at least we can try.

    You risk having a chat that is so depraved as to be unusable without moderation.

    I bristle at being told what to do. Yet I accept the need for moderation.

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    Here is my thoughts on moderation, and BB thank you for leaving this here as it has become a discussion, and not a place to rant.

    Moderation is required by law. In this case german law because BB is a german company. Now the mods are players, who are not paid , recieve a lot of bad rep, and very little thanks. They work for free to keep our chat pegi-7 which is the rating of this game. These guys work really hard.

    Myself I would mod, but I would rather just play. I modded during my first tour to afghanistan for Ikarium where I was an It support spcialist for the US army. And no I am no hero. My best friend never went home from that tour. He was a hero, and nobody knows, he was unsung and untold. His name was James Finley and he was a good man.

    The only way I would mod is if BB asked me to. I help people all day long, its what I do. But one does not need a banhammer, or in some extreme cases a Ban Nuke. To be helpful.

    BB's and Mods Ty for all of your hard work.
    Last edited by BenFranklin; 02.03.12 at 01:15.
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    As an older father of four, I quickly realized one thing....The mods on our server do a bloody good job of keeping the rules. They warn people all the time but they are ignored, then people get banned and the whinging starts.
    As it stands I am in the process of setting my 8 year old up to play this game. There are many games out there for young children which we have stopped him playing, purely because the chat wasn't suitable.
    This game has a young rating and as such will attract younger people. The value of having this so low is that it will attract a wider player base, and that can only be good for us all int he long run. The rating has never been hidden and you agreed to follow the rules when you started to play. Why should my child be exposed to swearing or general bad behavior, because you want to say something that isn't suitable for him.
    On a regular basis I see the mods telling people to take it to other channels/whispers, but alas it seems even this is too difficult.

    Come on folks stop all this nonsense. The Rules are there, you agreed to them when you started playing.

    The MODs deserve nothing but our thanks and support. They do something that is not easy and are quite often abused for doing it.

    If you want to talk rubbish, swear, insult people to your hearts content then keep it out of the main chat channels.

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