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    Hello!

    Can we not be rude and insulting to one another.

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    Proved my point. Glad I won't have to endure this any longer.
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    FYI: 15 camps can be skipped in SOTV

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobLurker View Post
    Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but a vote in which more than 50% of respondents say they aren't even going to start the quest is a damning statistic. And don't forget that the voters are likely to be the most active players who also look at the forum, while more casual players, who don't visit the forums, are more likely not to have known the obstacles awaiting them and been disappointed as a result - you don't have to look far for examples of that.

    There is simply no avoiding the fact that this quest has failed to impress or entertain a large number of players and the vote here is clear evidence of that. Even more worrying for BB is that of the level 46-50 players I've seen saying they are-doing/have-done the quest it has nearly always been because they are so bored otherwise - and that really should be a serious concern to BB, even if they ignore the clear statistics of those who never even started the quest.
    You completely fail to get it don't you. Obviously there are enough people buying gems to convince BB that after running costs there is enough profit to be made. Looking at the trading which happens in game one is able hazard a guess at the ratio of coiners to non coiners, chatting in game with other players will show you if your guess is right or not. From this you can deduce how many people are playing. Even if you figure if that number is as low as 1000 per server that gives 3000 players across the 3 servers. At this point in time 818 people had voted with 416 saying no. Thats only 1/7 th of of the number of players estimated. In other words about 86% of players are not hating the game enough to vote no.

    Your argument that not starting the quest because it's so bad is only a partial truth, it's not the only reason why people have not started. Some people will not have started because they have a life outside of the game which has prevented them from starting. The only statistic you can draw from non starters is that there is no statistic to be drawn about non starting because BB did such a bad job, to claim otherwise is nothing more than spin on the behalf of the we hate BB party.
    Last edited by Dorotheus; 06.06.13 at 05:17. Reason: additional points to add

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorotheus View Post
    You completely fail to get it don't you. Obviously there are enough people buying gems to convince BB that after running costs there is enough profit to be made. Looking at the trading which happens in game one is able hazard a guess at the ratio of coiners to non coiners, chatting in game with other players will show you if your guess is right or not. From this you can deduce how many people are playing. Even if you figure if that number is as low as 1000 per server that gives 3000 players across the 3 servers. At this point in time 818 people had voted with 416 saying no. Thats only 1/7 th of of the number of players estimated. In other words about 86% of players are not hating the game enough to vote no.

    Your argument that not starting the quest because it's so bad is only a partial truth, it's not the only reason why people have not started. Some people will not have started because they have a life outside of the game which has prevented them from starting. The only statistic you can draw from non starters is that there is no statistic to be drawn about non starting because BB did such a bad job, to claim otherwise is nothing more than spin on the behalf of the we hate BB party.
    Two things... 1. A guess based on a guess based on a random chat observation is still a guess. If you want to lecture others on statistics, then you'd be well advised not to base your own 'statistics' on random guesswork on your part. 2. Why do you think anyone hates BB? It would be very strange behaviour indeed to play the game of a company one hated, so why would you think people are doing that? Step back and take a clearer look at the valid criticisms that are being made and stop trying to describe it as 'hating' - it isn't.

    So, having completely 'got it', perhaps you can address the points that the players on the forums are the most active and a vote of over 50% saying they won't even attempt the quest is statistically highly meaningful when based on a sample base of many hundreds. Whether anyone at BB is monitoring the non-participation is another matter, but significant numbers of players simply weren't interested or motivated by this event, which is a clear indication of the problems BB is facing right now. Feel free to ignore the key points again though.

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    Guide of the Month Ruler of the Land Nogbad's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bottlecap View Post
    FYI: 15 camps can be skipped in SOTV

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    Yes, I remember Olle's map very well, it was great for its time. Unfortunately, it was a pre-pathing change map. You can no longer do the Camps 11, 12, 13 route without being intercepted.
    Keep searching, there's plenty more out there.
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