Originally Posted by stefanceltare
Yes I can - books take a long time to make. You can manage to click one button every so often to start another one going. If you want to benefit from 'dead time' between books, then maybe you should pay for it in gems. After all, it's going to cost BB money to program that in....
Stacking buffs /= a queue for the Book Binder. YOU can queue what you like and how you like ur buffs in the PH. Should be the same here
You must be joking, right? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? The coding is right there, no need to code anything, just look at your PH.
I'm not joking, I'm serious. Okay, I can't comment effectively on the work required to implement this change, but I'm not sure that you can either. I believe it only takes one click every so often to produce a book and a certain amount of time management to reduce 'dead time' between books. If you want more efficient production there are two options provided already:
1. Use gems to produce a book instantly.
2. Use the glue buffs to double the production of the bookbinder.
If you also want a third option, namely a production queue, then why should that not also cost gems? Why should it be free?
Because there is already the choice of instant production with gems so whoever wants insta books can buy them. PH/Barrack have same system and it works just fine. Why use this gimmick with no queue... whats the logic behind it?
Unless I'm very much mistaken, it doesn't take 20 hours to make one army unit, or one tool. Also, the Bookbinder makes books that are to be used for the skills trees and may be part of a different system. I don't see the Bookbinder as being the same as the PH or Barracks, so I don't expect to have a queue for it. I understand you have a different point of view on that.
I don't know why the Bookbinder is set up in this particular way, but I don't find it a problem. Not all buildings work in the same way anyway.
Using the same logic you should be able to queue Explorers as well.
So fatman, when you come back, unload your stuff and go straight back out on an adventure search!
Are you complaining about having to log in every 12 hours for explorers? If you aren't then get your bookbinder to level 5 and then you can work on the same schedule (12h cycle for manuscripts at level 5)...
Your logic is not my logic... The book binder is a building, the explorer is not, it's a different game mechanic. And what same schedule are you talking about? Explorers can be sent on both adventure searches and treasures which personally I combine. Obviously you're comparing apples with pears but I wont go there...
Making some observations or pointing how a system can be made better does not make one a complainer... Am logging 10 times a day or am online for hours at a time so that is not the point. The point is that having a queue makes it simple and simple is better, PH and barracks have proven that. Would you want to remove the queue from those 2 buildings as well? Why am I relating to those 2 buildings? For one, they share the same upgrading costs. All 3 are not production yards, all use resources to magically make items over periods of time and all 3 have an interface to work with. That pretty much tells me the book binder is in the same category as the PH & Barrack.
One more thing. I am upgrading my book binder to lvl 5 but go tell that to the rest of the players... the majority cannot afford a lvl 5 upgrade. Even my PH/barrack are not lvl 5. Don't be one sided... would it bother you if the building had a queue?
Enough said on this topic I guess, time to choke, nudge my head and walk away...
Perhaps... But then judging from the comments on this thread, your logic isn't anyones logic... Anyone who agrees with you is staying particularly quiet.
I have no issue with how the bookbinder works and I would disagree that because one is a specialist and one is a building they can't have the same mechanic. Also as someone said previously, the production time has a lot to do with whether items can be queued. A single basket or recruit (or even a "stack" of 25) is hardly a long production queue. Even at level 5, the quickest production is 12 hours for the bookbinder.
If it makes you feel any better, think of the bookbinder like a specialist and you will be able to sleep easier at night. I treat it as another Explorer/Geo that I have to task to do something every x hours. I have read this post through a few times now and I still don't understand why you would be upset with them implementing it this way but have no problem with the Explorer mechanics. Even if they are a building not a specialist- why can they not share the same mechanic even if they are "apples and pearls" as you would say?
Last edited by widowmaker1985; 16.06.13 at 04:29. Reason: clarification
I think this has already been mentioned but thought I'd raise it again with my main concern which is without a queue the demand for science supplies in TO will quickly die off completely. Without a queue, even low level science buildings are enough for a player as their book binder will have a fairly large down time.
As another thought - perhaps trained specialists could require on-going training to keep them fresh. If they were not kept current their skills would stop working (not be lost though) until training resumed. Specialists could require something low such as a book every week or two and could use up a book relating to their highest skill so one trained using manuscripts would require a manuscript, ones trained with tomes would require a tome etc...
This would obviously require adjusted bookbinder building times and further thought but it would provide an on-going demand for science supplies. To build a whole bunch of highly trained specialists and keep them trained would require either a reasonable science industry or the purchase of relevant science supplies from TO. Would definitely encourage more investment in science supply chains and increase trade in science supplies.
Anyone who agrees stays quiet because it has been proven on several occasions that BB does not listen to the player's feedback.
I am not upset but annoyed because it is yet another item on the daily to-do list in this game but as it is now i have to do it 2 times at specific hours with no control whatsoever. So if I am not online for one evening then thats it... the binder does not work. Sometimes when I am at work I cannot log early in the morning. That means my book gathering hours and putting the next one will fluctuate. Say if I put one at 12PM then that means at Midnight I have to put the next. Do you see my problem?
A game is meant to be fun and not tedious.
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