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    The way I read the charts on the linked page, and the various other pages with the same sort of chart, it doesn't read to me like it works in any way to reach that sort of cost.

    The way the chart reads to me is that Manuscripts increase in cost for every 10 made up until 91, and then never increase in price again.
    Tomes increase every 20 up to the 81st made, and then never again.
    Codex's increase every 30 up until the 61st made, and then never again.
    Otherwise why is the manuscript section shown with 10 increments, the tome section shown with 5, and the codex section only 3.

    Maybe that's the cap someone discovered.
    Maybe it keeps going, but noone has been able to make enough to get that far to know for certain.

    If it does cap out at the points in the chart, the costs will still be considerable, but nowhere near those calculations.
    If it doesn't cap out, then we've certainly got a problem.

    Edit: Actually, our German friends tested and confirmed those as caps -> http://forum.diesiedleronline.de/thr...l=1#post858621

    Edit 2: This means that your 7th specialist (and all specialists from then on, forever), not counting the level 50 skill, need 10 codex, 40 tome and 210 manuscript
    210 manuscript are 5040 gold, 98700 nibs, 123900 simple paper
    40 tomes need 200 scripts (from the 210 above), 16600 printing types, 24200 intermediate paper
    10 codex needs 30 tomes (from the 40 above), 4000 fittings, 5600 advanced paper

    I'm a little tired, someone correct that maths if it seems wrong.
    Last edited by Thrade; 09.07.13 at 12:26.

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    Yeah, This will be a problem for some in a few months. so far ive made 33 manu,s 10 tomes, 3 codex.

    It now costs 365 simple paper, 295 nibs, 15 coins to make each manuscript!

    I did do some calculations but after making my 40th manu the cost jumped from 13 coins to 15 coins.
    Put it this way, if u got a lot of geos, scouts to upgrade youll need a lot of glue and plenty of book making stock

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    I found this by chance, after I noticed my Manuscrpit cost 13GC yesterday and today, 15 and at first I thought I was misreading but now I can see it, I am seriously considering demolishing all the Science buildings and retrieving building licenses!
    I am all for extra gameplay, but not at an differential and exponential rate.
    I believe the cost should remain the same throughout, so we know what we're paying.
    If Tesco put up their beans for every tin I buy, I would soon shop elsewhere!

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    72k might seem like a lot. But please do the math on how long it actually take to complete 5 geologists. With and without glue....

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    I'm at a point now where each tome costs 2 manuscripts, so that definitely is implemented. Hopefully we'll see a rebalance of the system as it is expanded to include other specialists.
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    It is not exponential.
    It is not 72k.
    It will cap out at 5040 gold (plus the other mats), assuming you want 10/10/10.

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    Im all for option 3, however only if the people that have saved up for it gets to change there books free of charge the first time around, just for the fact that if you are saving up then its because you don´t need severel geo´s at lvl 31 or at what ever lvl you have stopped them at. for me I have only givin my only jolly 8 books and thats it. I don´t see the need for giving him any more for my playstyle, so why should i be punished for saving books for the next type of skill tree?

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    I can only assume the current system is designed the way it is so as be a balancing system to prevent high level gem buyers from being too powerful when PvP is implemented. If science for generals is the last of the science chains to be implemented then all players will have used books in the first 3 science chains making upgrades for generals equally expensive for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorotheus View Post
    I can only assume the current system is designed the way it is so as be a balancing system to prevent high level gem buyers from being too powerful when PvP is implemented. If science for generals is the last of the science chains to be implemented then all players will have used books in the first 3 science chains making upgrades for generals equally expensive for all.
    Unless one hasn't spent a single manuscript/tome/codex and is stockpiling them like me Why waste valuble (and now expensive as it appears) resources on a blimming geo? Sounds silly to me

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    Has it definitely been confirmed that we will be able to skill gens and scouts in the future ?
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