[Guide] Playing with Polymer`s minds

[mike1574]

great job polymer

[Polymer]

[test] Alibaba the young woodcutter

simulator to use : tinyurl.com/setsimu



This is only a test semi-guide, it is not in any way complete. Troops properties will probably change, more than likely better setups will be found. And ofcourse will have to recompute and retest everything with the new troops.

Losses roughly: 1950R, 810B, 910M, 2240C, 680LB, 780S, 345ES, no K
Assassins, small catapults and RoAs will lower losses.




Sector 1


cavalry and MMA totally useless against this camp, melee and bow-type units should be used

c3: 180 swordswielder

Obvious option: 1 Assassin buff.

Else:
MG: 160ES, 110K (158ES)

OR
w1: VET 90S, 160LB (90S,160LB) --- lets about 116-117 SW, 2 rounds
w2: VET 59S, 191LB (59S, 181LB) --- 47SW remain, 2 rounds
w3: VET 28S, 222XB (28S) --- 1 round

OR
w1: VET 93S, 157LB (93S, 157LB) --- lets about 111-117 SW, 2 rounds
W2: MG 82S, 1ES, 187K (82S) --- 2 rounds




c4: 100 stonecannon, 110 desert marksmen
w1: VET 250B (250B)
w2: VET 121LB, 129XB (121LB)
w2: MG 121B, 149XB (120B)




L1: 80 Desert marksman, 120 Horseman, 1 Shrewd Thief
w1: VET 125S, 125LB (125S, 125LB)
w2: MG 140R, 73M, 57K (140R, 73M)

Sector 2



c5: 80 swordwielder, 80 mounted bowman (easy camp)

Can be taken out by a small catapult.

w1: MMA: 220S (220S)
w2: MMA: 220S (220S)
w3: MMA: 220S (24S)

or
w1: MMA: 220C (220C)
w2: MMA: 220C (220C)
w3: MMA: 220S (24S)

or
w1: VET 250S (250S)
w2: VET 250M (250M)
w3: MG 65R, 60M, 1ES, 144K (65R, 60M)

or
w1: MMA: 220S (220S)
w2: MMA: 220M (220M)
w3: MG 65R, 31M, 1ES, 173K (65R, 31M)



c6: 100 desert marksman, 90 swordclasher

w1: VET 250B (250B)

w2: MG 185M, 85K (181M)
w2: MG 220B, 50LB (220B, 50LB) -- camp lives but its empty so you need w3: ANY GENERAL 1R (0)

or
w1: VET 250LB (250LB)
w2: ANY GENERAL 91S, 109ES (91S)

or
w1: ANY GENERAL 200B (200B)
w2: ANY GENERAL 86B (86B)
w3: MG 235R, 1ES, 34K (235R)




c7: 150 swordsmaster

option 1: Assassin buff

Option 2:
w1: vet 250LB (250LB)
w2: vet 250LB (250LB)
w3: vet 250LB (250LB)
w4: MG 57S, 213K (57S)

Option 3:
w1: vet 250B (250B)
w2: vet 250B (250B)
w3: vet 250B (250B)
w4: MG 90S, 180K (90S)

Option 4:
w1: VET 78S, 171LB (78S, 171LB)
w2: MG 114S, 1ES, 155K (114S)



c8: 70 swordwielder, 50 DuneMarksman, 70 Horseman
For exercise only (although I recommend the 1R block below)

w1: MMA 220C (220C)
w2: MMA 220C (220C)
w3: MG 44ES, 36C, 190XB (43ES)

or
w1: VET 105M, 145S (105M, 145S)
w2: VET 145S, 105C (145S, 105C)
w3: MG 80S, 30ES, 160K (80S, 30ES, 3K)

or
w1: VET 75S,175LB (75S,175LB)
w2: VET 76S,174LB (76S,174LB)
w3: ANY GENERAL 76S,124LB (76S,124LB)
w4: MG 49R,1ES,200C,20K (49R)

or
w1: MMA 220C (220C)
w2: VET 145S, 105C (145S, 105C)
w3: VET 49R, 50S, 1ES, 100C, 50K (49R, 50S, 1ES, 20C)


Else this camp is blocked via attacking the leader camp with a regular general loaded with 1R and getting intercepted (ofc allow the intercept).





On the w2 and w3 fast general spots there should be MMA and respectively MG generals (only 1 MMA available in testserver).


L2: 80 Horseman, 90 DuneMarksman, 1 Greedy Thief

w1: REGULAR GENERAL block 1R (1R) --- gets intercepted by c8 and blocks it, allow it to happen
wait 5 seconds
w1: VET 50M, 75S, 50C, 75LB (50M, 75S, 50C, 75LB)

w2: REGULAR GENERAL block 1R (1R) --- gets intercepted by c8 and blocks it, allow it to happen
wait 5 seconds
w2: ANY GENERAL 125R (125R) --- can do with less recruits, but that increases chances of leaving some DuneMarksman on

w3: REGULAR GENERAL block 1R (1R) --- gets intercepted by c8 and blocks it, allow it to happen
don`t wait
w3: MG 125R, 65M, 80K (125R, 38M)

Sector 3



c11: 80 Mounted Bowman, 90 SwordClasher

w1: VET 250R (250R)
w2: VET 250R (250R)
w3: MG 90M, 40S, 40ES, 100K (90M, 40S, 8ES, 1K)
w3: VET 90M, 40S, 20ES, 100K (90M, 40S, 6ES, 3K)

or
w1: MMA 220R (220R)
w2: MMA 220R (220R)
w3: MG 90M, 40S, 40ES, 100K (90M, 40S, 15ES)



c12: 70 swordwielder, 70 Horseman

w1: MMA 220C (220C)
w2: MG 65ES, 50C, 155K (64ES)



c15: 90 SwordClasher, 90 StoneCannons

This camp should be blocked, but in the unlikely case you don`t find that possible, use:
w1: VET 250R (250R)
w2: ANY GENERAL 200R (200R)
w3: VET 250M or 250S or 250ES or 250XB or combo of them (0)

Block option:





L3: 80 DuneMarksman, 80 Horseman, 1 Mysteriuos Thief

Send the attacks in pairs, allow some space between sending the batches.

To c15: w1: 1R (1R)
wait 3 seconds
To L3: w1: VET 250R (250R)

Have some patience before sending next batch
To c15: w2: 1R (1R)
wait 3 seconds
To L3: w2: VET 250R (250R)

Have some patience before sending next batch
To c15: w3: 1R (1R)
wait 3 seconds
To L3: w3: MMA 70R (70R)

Have some patience before sending next batch
To c15: w4: 1R (1R)
don`t wait
To L3: w4: MG 90S, 190K (70S)


Sector 4


c18: 60 dune marksman, 50 horseman , 70 swordmaster

w1: MMA 170C (170C)
w2: MMA 220M (220M)

w3: VET 85ES, 50C, 115K (85ES, 50C, 10K)
w3: MG 80ES, 50C, 140K (73ES)
w3: MMA 80ES, 140K (73ES)




L4 leader camp: 9 swordclasher, 80 horseman, 1 Treacherous Thief

w1: MMA 220C (220C)
w2: MMA 70M, 150C (70M, 150C) or w2: VET 70M, 180C (70M, 180C)
w3: MG 120ES, 150K (116ES)



c19: 70 mounted bowman, 70 desert marksman
MG 270ES (120ES)



L5:
w1: MMA 220C (220C)
w2: MMA 70M, 150C (70M, 150C) or w2: VET 70M, 180C (70M, 180C)
w3: MG 120S, 150ES (118S)


Sector 5:



c24:

small catapult

or
w1: MMA 220C (220C)
w2: MMA 220C (220C)
w3: MG 60S, 20C, 190K (60S, 20C, 5K)



c27: 100 desert marksman, 100 stonecannon

w1: VET 250B (250B)
w2: VET 121LB, 129XB (0)



c28: 50 swordwielder, 40 desert marksman, 70 swordmaste

block regular general 200S (200S) --- 4 rounds


w1: MMA 220C (220C)
w2: VET 100C, 150LB (100C, 150LB)
w3: MG 50ES, 220K (50ES, 6K) or MG 135M, 135K (132M) or 75S, 195K (75S, 7K)



L6: 80 Horseman, 80 StoneCannons, 1 Captain

w1: MMA 220C (220C)
w2: VET 220R (220R)
w3: MG 270XB (0)

[Polymer]

[test] Level up rewards

http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/t...lvl50-to-lvl75

Here is a small table showing how much XP is needed form level to level.
Rewards and what buildings become available are noticed as well.
Remember that everything is subject to change before life version comes out

Level---->Needed XP---->Reward-------------------------->Allows to build

50------->3.746.000----->2500 gems, 700 gold coins---->Fountain, Island Storehouse, Explore distant island
51------->4.696.651----->800 gold coins------------------>Units-change for garrisons
52------->5.888.556----->800 gold coins------------------>Mahogany sawmill
53------->7.382.940----->800 gold coins------------------>Exotic wood cutter, Exotic forester
54------->9.256.565----->800 gold coins------------------>Platinum smelter, Platinum weaponsmith, Elite Barracks, Prolonged treasure searches, Swordsman

55------->11.605.675---->500 gems, 800 gold coins----->Homestead, Weaver, Saddle Maker, Elite stables, Mounted Swordsman, Knight
56------->14.550.936---->900 gold coins------------------>Very long adventure search, Arquebus maker, Marksman, Armored Marksman, Mounted Marksman

57------->18.243.638---->900 gold coins------------------>Wagon Maker, Foundry, Besieger
58------->22.873.466---->900 gold coins
59------->28.678.241---->900 gold coins
60------->35.956.137---->500 gems, 900 gold coins----->Geologist can find granite quarries, Granite mason
61------->45.081.001---->1000 gold coins---------------->Geologist can find titanium mines, Titanium mine
62------->56.521.552---->1000 gold coins---------------->Geologist can find saltpeter mines, Saltpeter mine
63------->70.865.459---->1000 gold coins
64------->88.849.529---->1000 gold coins
65------->111.397.554--->500 gems, 1000 gold coins
66------->139.667.764--->2500 gems, 1000 gold coins
67------->175.112.322--->1500 gold coins
68------->219.551.916--->1500 gold coins
69------->275.269.287--->1500 gold coins
70------->345.126.481--->500 gems, 1500 gold coins
71------->432.711.870--->2000 gold coins--------------->Manor
72------->542.524.473--->2000 gold coins
73------->680.205.062--->2000 gold coins
74------->852.825.908--->2000 gold coins
75------->1.069.254.067->2500 gems, 2000 gold coins

New game version changes

siedler-vision

[Brayarg]

sticky this thread please... 120k views and good guides yet we have to keep it bumped? common!

[Polymer]

Thanks for the support, I see it got stickied now.

[Brayarg]

Thanks for the support, I see it got stickied now.

yw and great news thank you for the sticky and ofc thank you for the guides

[Polymer]

More information about rewards, troops, new decoration buildings etc on Siedler-Vision.de

[Wanderer-nl]

Reply to VLT by Polymer:
I don't understand why you'd want to lose M and S over sending a wave of bowmen first with certain camps. I get those waves might be needed for blocks but I really miss setups for when one doesn't want to use blocks.

Edit: forgot to mention I very much like the guide and appreciate all the work that has been put in that!

[Dialecticus]

The hardest currency in this game are not coins, or even gems, but time. The more time it takes to reach a certain goal the more that goal costs. So, some people may prefer to spend as little time as possible to finish an adventure, at the cost of spending more virtual resources, which they have plenty of.

Using generals in suicide waves essentially cost you time, if you have to wait for generals to recover.

[Polymer]

Reply to VLT by Polymer:
I don't understand why you'd want to lose M and S over sending a wave of bowmen first with certain camps. I get those waves might be needed for blocks but I really miss setups for when one doesn't want to use blocks.

Edit: forgot to mention I very much like the guide and appreciate all the work that has been put in that!

Tried to offer more options than one, different people, different troops, different needs. Some find easier to make militia and/or want to save a general so they`d finish adventure faster. An adventure like VLT if you have sufficient troops and generals can be done in under 3 hours. But it depends on generals management, saving one counts.
And with a high enough army, with high level troops already built and enough (alive) generals you can do 3-4 fairytales during same premium day.
Doing many FTs back=to=back and swapping or selling your lootspots then buying another FT ls when available can do a lot when gathering beans.
As Dialecticus hinted, on premium, time is an expensive commodity.

About non-block setups, I don`t know what to say, I find blocks almost mandatory, outside of the bad internet connections and having game bugs/lag as some do, I don`t see a reason for not saving troops whenever possible. I`ll consider adding killing options for those camps, but for few weeks I don`t have much time available.

P.S. Thanks for appreciations.