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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerontius View Post
    EDIT, but I'll repeat one last time for the hard of hearing - these storehouses have no real value. you can't steal something that has no value.
    Yes, you're right! Improved stores have absolutely no value at all...

    Apart from the 15kgc you can get on the TO for them meaning four free ones nets you about 60,000 coins. Which equates to well over a hundred lvl3 > lvl4 upgrades which in turn increases your productivity and buff efficiency.

    I swear I said "bigger picture" a while back.

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    "EDIT, but I'll repeat one last time for the hard of hearing - these storehouses have no real value. you can't steal something that has no value."

    But they do have value - they are purchasable from the merchant for gems!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jollyfog2012 View Post
    Soz I just dont understand your comment? People have blatantly cheated time and time again. How an anyone justify this? Its a case of repeat cheating which is an offence..
    The point is that there is no reason for anyone to get upset about people who exploited the bug and obtained something that has no value. The point is that there is absolutely no reason for BB to alienate a large proportion of their playerbase by demanding the return of storehouses.

    UNLESS

    you realise that some people have already made a mistake buying spending their real life money on gems... Those people, faced with the fact that they've made a terrible mistake spending money on this sub-standard game, are justifiably upset and since those people pay BBs barely earned wages, BB had to try to get their worthless storehouses back again somehow.

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    No value to us, true, I'm pretty sure the shareholders wouldn't share your view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jollyfog2012 View Post
    "EDIT, but I'll repeat one last time for the hard of hearing - these storehouses have no real value. you can't steal something that has no value."

    But they do have value - they are purchasable from the merchant for gems!!!
    As soon as the real money gets turned into gems, the content has no value. That is BB policy. Perhaps you missed my explanation of this back on page 1 or 2 of this thread.

    If they had value, you could get a refund. If they had value, BB are breaking any number of trading laws.

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    Let's explain this another way.

    When you spend money on this game, buying gems, you're paying for entertainment. You're paying for a service, not a product. The in game items entertain you, but have no value of themselves. If you gain no entertainment from having the items then you have made a bad investment of your money.

    If you think your investment was buying a "thing" in a game, you have misunderstood the nature of the transaction.
    Last edited by Gerontius; 21.07.14 at 16:57.

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    OK maybe I have perhaps missed a point - but as business goes Im pretty sure that BB are quite within their rights on this particular occasion to demand items back that were never intended to be obtained in such a manner.

    750 gems per storehouse? Its a huge hit to take when some greedy people who gained are now going to flood the market, thus shortening BBs potential profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerontius View Post
    As soon as the real money gets turned into gems, the content has no value. That is BB policy. Perhaps you missed my explanation of this back on page 1 or 2 of this thread.

    If they had value, you could get a refund. If they had value, BB are breaking any number of trading laws.
    But they do have a value to BB/UBI/Shareholders, Via covering the operating costs or generating dividends.

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    can someone tell me tommorow how many players will be on line i think its over 50% that we exploit and took a lot of stores ?because i havent read many they want to return them

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    I think the ban part will be dependant on how many stores certain people had (i.e the seriousness of the "crime")

    I would hope that the ban part was just a scare to get a lot of people to return their ill gotten gains.

    However, as a serious cash playing player, I stand by my earlier post in that I hope there will be some retribution for thiose who still took the pi$$

    EDIT - having said that - yea I would surely have taken the pish too had I known about it - Im a hypocrite to the extreme
    Last edited by jollyfog2012; 21.07.14 at 17:09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jollyfog2012 View Post
    OK maybe I have perhaps missed a point - but as business goes Im pretty sure that BB are quite within their rights on this particular occasion to demand items back that were never intended to be obtained in such a manner.

    750 gems per storehouse? Its a huge hit to take when some greedy people who gained are now going to flood the market, thus shortening BBs potential profit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brayarg View Post
    But they do have a value to BB/UBI/Shareholders, Via covering the operating costs or generating dividends.

    Except that BB have been sensible enough not to play the money/value/profit card. Because they know these things are worthless.

    Instead, they've played the "fair play" card.

    I only mentioned the lack of value of these things because other people keep on equating exploitation of this bug with theft to justify their position that BB are in the right. This is an incorrect comparison and, I repeat, not one that BB have made because they know their own policy on this.

    They've gone for "fair play" because they understand that people are buying entertainment and, for those people, someone else getting that same entertainment for free sullies their enjoyment. They don't need these things back and having a few extra storehouses on the market isn't actually going to change their profits one jot, I would guess.

    What they are doing, and this is the argument I failed to see until a couple of pages back, is protecting the emotional wellbeing of the people who have invested money into this game.

    Any argument about cheating/stealing etc is just wrong. It's not about punishing the cheaters, it's about making the gem-buyers feel better so they keep on spending.

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