Hospitable Bone Church no longer dropping from The Whirlwind adventure

[Kit_]

My guild uses a loottracker created by Procat from Lazy Monkeys and also used by THU on Newfoundland. It involves players inputting their adv loot manually into the site to keep track of their personal loot, and provides a good global overview of all loot drops on all adv. Whirlwind was added to this site on 7th June and in the 64 loot entries for whirlwind since that date, 3 have had bone churches drop.

[IainC]

All I'm saying is that all your evidence is anecdotal. Discussing it in Global doesn't mean anything as far as statistical probability is concerned, you're using a very small sample size and trying to suggest that it's proof of a problem. Again, not getting a drop after 100 attempts is unusual but not impossible and not having positive confirmation from asking in Global proves nothing at all.

[SmurfAsH]

inputting their adv loot manually

global overview of all loot drops

Thanks for info!

[SmurfAsH]

All I'm saying is that all your evidence is anecdotal. Discussing it in Global doesn't mean anything as far as statistical probability is concerned, you're using a very small sample size and trying to suggest that it's proof of a problem.

No, I'm asking for someone that can prove me wrong. If you can't see the logical reason in that, you'd better read some philosophy instead of referring stats.

Atleast I'm not relying on hearsaying or stats from other servers.

Again, not getting a drop after 100 attempts is unusual but not impossible and not having positive confirmation from asking in Global proves nothing at all.

Again, it's not just 100 attempts..

[IainC]

Atleast I'm not relying on hearsaying or stats from other servers.

You were absolutely relying on hearsay. "None of my friends", it was discussed in Global", "I asked in another thread". All of that is hearsay and anecdote.

[SmurfAsH]

hearsay = "unverified information acquired from another; rumor."
It's verified directly with them, not a "I think someone got one yesterday"-information.

[Splotch]

I've now been doing several WWs every day for a month.

My guild uses a loottracker created by Procat from Lazy Monkeys and also used by THU on Newfoundland. It involves players inputting their adv loot manually into the site to keep track of their personal loot, and provides a good global overview of all loot drops on all adv. Whirlwind was added to this site on 7th June and in the 64 loot entries for whirlwind since that date, 3 have had bone churches drop.

Kit_, how many of the bone churches were entered in to your loot tracker on or after the 1st of July ?

Sorry to wade in but it was bugging me that no-one had asked that.

[SmurfAsH]

I've be doing WW longer than for a month, but severals every day for a month.

I don't trust the data in that loot tracker as it's from

players inputting their adv loot manually

and provides a

global overview of all loot drops

.

[Splotch]

I don't trust the data in that loot tracker as it's from

players inputting their adv loot manually

Hmmmm... Well you're a bit stuck then!

Entering it manually is the same thing as a player telling you that they dropped a church in the past month, if you don't trust that then I don't think you're going to find anyone who's dropped one. I could be wrong but "global overview of all loot drops" doesn't seem to mean much that'd make me question the information as it looks like everyone is on the same server, Newfoundland. If by global Kit_ means it contains data from different servers and the people talking in the thread were on different servers and/or the people entering it were then yeah, i'd say it's a valid concern.

[SmurfAsH]

Hmmmm... Well you're a bit stuck then!

Entering it manually is the same thing as a player telling you that they dropped a church in the past month, if you don't trust that then I don't think you're going to find anyone who's dropped one.

They may add they had a drop earlier, before the changes and before they got the loot tracker..

As I've said.. I'll keep doing WW and getting 4x loot info per WW I do.. Eventually there will be a drop, but as it's now.. it's no longer "about 2%".. It's about some ‰..