You fixed nothing

[Brayarg]

Hey Bobsie,

Yes the game does have issues at the moment, These issues should be relayed to BB accordingly as I am sure you have done. But not everyone does this, Some just take to the forums to whine!

I must admit I didn't read every single post here so I couldn't possible comment if you personally were being accused of whining. I certainly am not suggesting that you are.

However I have not had any issues with my generals as of late, I think this is mainly because I have adapted my gameplay to allow for these new "challenges".

[bobsie]

Hey Bobsie,

Yes the game does have issues at the moment, These issues should be relayed to BB accordingly as I am sure you have done. But not everyone does this, Some just take to the forums to whine!

I must admit I didn't read every single post here so I couldn't possible comment if you personally were being accused of whining. I certainly am not suggesting that you are.

However I have not had any issues with my generals as of late, I think this is mainly because I have adapted my gameplay to allow for these new "challenges".

Sorry Brayarg - I wasn't *sighing* at you. Yep, you're correct, we all need to encourage people to file a ticket if they have problems, and I hope that people reading this will do so. Actually, I think I have thus far escaped any direct accusation of whining, but I still think that those who have resorted to calling other players whiners or some such are out of order.

I've had minimal issues with my own adventuring because I am careful not to invite looters until I am past any blocks that might be tricky if I am blocking, and in general I haven't had any problems until there have been other players on the map. I have had this from the other side as well - I was invited to a VLT adventure on Newfoundland as I had not done that quest over there, and my general kept on repeatedly attacking the same camp. After some time - like 15-20mins - the adventure host assumed I had made a kill as we'd all seen it happening and finished the adventure, but I received no battle report, and no loot. Surprisingly though, the quest to do a VLT then completed - it seems odd to me that the quest would ping, yet there would be no other recognition that I had been on the adventure (no battle report, no loot). Something is obviously peculiar with that scenario!

[Ozzymandeus]

Yes the game does have issues at the moment, These issues should be relayed to BB accordingly as I am sure you have done. But not everyone does this, Some just take to the forums to whine!

If players see the issue they have experienced posted in the bug reports section, they are far more inclined to post a "me too" message than they are to open a support ticket for something they have already seen raised on the forum. If posting in the bug reports section isn't a legitimate method of relaying issues to BB then that section should be removed and the code of conduct amended to state that all bug reports should go to support.

I am sure the support staff would LOVE that!

[Vodkat]

Morning,

Unfortunately this isn't a feedback thread as its location is within the General Discussion section of the forum so anyone saying its feedback, guess again! But there is a hell of a difference between providing constructive feedback for the good of the game and community within the appropriate channel to posting unproductive threads that if anything have a detrimental effect.

Many of these so called complaints are by people who don't even read/test or prepare correctly, Some examples of this would be.

1) The combat changes affecting the "epic adventures" many players on newfoundland complained day after day regarding this, Even though they were told their information was inaccurate, There own inability to understand upcoming updates and complain over them amuses me.

2) We were all told the loot tables where changing, Yet now we have multiple threads complaining that its "unfair" it comes down to accountability, after all you alone decided what adventures to do on the run up to the change. All games change with patches over time, We either adapt of we die. (I can remember when whirlwind was nerfed on d3 year or so ago) It happens, deal with it!!!! If not you know how to move on right?? If your not happy with the service, leave and find one you are happy with!!

With regards to this topic here:

Yes the game has some latency issues at the moment, I haven't done a block in weeks. I cant see a few recs being worth them K/X/E/S/M's at this moment in time. If you CHOOSE to continue blocking while the game is like this, then again that's accountability. Don't come here complaining about your losses because you as an individual choose to block a camp... I have been playing this game one camp at a time, very slowly with no issues.

Hey matey not wishing to pick a fight as you seem to have come on here for an discussion rather than the typical "I don't have a problem, so you must not have attitude". Please correct me if im wrong and I hope I am but there is not a feedback thread for these types of comments. Just one were we can't create a thread but offer feed back on the news article posted. (side note, i think its good we can't create threads in there as the section would be chaotic if we could)

[Brayarg]

its okay Bobsie I didn't take it the wrong way. This will be my last post as im off to work soonish.

Hopefully I can shed some light on to this VLT for you.

What I personally believe is happening is:

The VLT walk takes X amount of minuets todo,
But due to some sort of sync/lag/latency the general is doing the walk *visibly* in X - Y time, therefore the *gained* time on the walk is then spent at the camp making repeated attacks until the *real game* can catch up with the *visable game* this is why the battle report will not be generated for X amount of minutes.

Easy solution being that the adventure host doesn't make a move until you confirm the receipt of the report.

With regards to the quest completion, You would have received this due to the *participation* as this isn't related to a kill made, just being invited is enough.

[Brayarg]

Hey matey not wishing to pick a fight as you seem to have come on here for an discussion rather than the typical "I don't have a problem, so you must not have attitude". Please correct me if im wrong and I hope I am but there is not a feedback thread for these types of comments. Just one were we can't create a thread but offer feed back on the news article posted. (side note, i think its good we can't create threads in there as the section would be chaotic if we could)

Hey Vodkat honestly last quick one, as I need to go:

Instead of parts of the community complaining in a negative sense again and again in the general discussion thread , Wouldn't it be more productive to either

1) game suggestion
2) bugs & technical issues
3) feedback

I am all for fixing the game up, But at what point does the *complaining* become counter productive, driving parts of the community away? potential new players and long term players alike who just grow tired of reading poorly informed peoples gripes?

What do they say knowledge is? Power? The blatant lack of people reading dev diary's and then complaining is shocking.

[bobsie]

With regards to the quest completion, You would have received this due to the *participation* as this isn't related to a kill made, just being invited is enough.

That was my conclusion in the end. Mind you, the loot would have been nice.. Based on this, I have told players on my adventures to tell me when they have received the battle report - hence the 45min wait on BLT yesterday.. My "premium time rage" is going to have to take a break before I actually have a stroke..

[Vodkat]

Tbh I agree with most of what you said my comment was more aimed at the feedback section only being there to post feedback on new article and not other issues.

But yes I definately think some posts could be directed better to were u have stated, but others as u can see from this thread are more discusions (all be aruments) that are better suited in general.

I do agree people should read the dev diaries and patch notes more, The people complaining of epic raids is clearly there own fault for not reading. But what you need to remember is alot of the complaints(not all) aswell arn't people didn't know, is there voicing there oppinions on the changes. This will calm down after people accept it but for now they should be able to voice there oppinions. Complaining they didn't know is there own fault I agree, complaining because they don't like it is fair enough.

The way i view forums on any game is a place to talk about the game in almost any form. Your not gonna go down the pub and vent about the game to your mates, you do it on the forums. I agree there is to much moaning going on at the moment, but what needs to be done is to look at why that is, not just attack the players who are moaning (not saying you here as you seem very calm). Hopefully BB will do this after xmas as I know this time of year they will not have time.

Tbh i doubt many new players will come on the forums and be put off (i could be wrong). I think most new players just get on and play the game and will make there own oppinions. Which tbh will be good ones as this is a good game, its just getting problems atm and there isn't really anythink to say BB has even noticed or are doing anythink about it. Which I admit is tough because we both know if BB posted a simple message they were looking into them alot of people would say thankyou and remain calm, but alot of others would just moan.

Anyways matey have a good one at work, hope the day goes quick for you.

[Brayarg]

Anyways matey have a good one at work, hope the day goes quick for you.

Ill try Bud, You have a good day too

[Fexno]

Dear forum readers,

Please understand that MOD_Kioco is a chat moderator, but also a player with his own views and opinions. As such the insulting bits have been edited out, same as any other player.

Regards,
Fexno