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  1. #11
    EWiggin
    Cripes - I thought we'd have an answer accompanied with a screenshot in ten minutes - same as last time!

    Are you still drawing the screenshot?

    Sorry - I shouldn't badger you...
    Last edited by EWiggin; 04.01.15 at 12:32. Reason: Did not mean to badger...

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    why does the starter of this tread have such weird name :S
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    Firstly let me apologise for not living on the forum day and night just on the off chance that someone should ask me to do something!!! I am truly apologetic for not being here to provide the speedy response that you anticipated although for anyone else that is already here 24 X 7 can I suggest they open the curtains and go out side occasionally i.e. get a life


    With regards to asking me for a screen shot, I don't see the relevance. I have only ever done SftR adventure 4 or 5 times and yet have 2 of the White Castles hence my comment based upon my experience.


    With regards to being objective I thought I had been already - after all I did in fact praise the originator of the website in my original post for putting in the time and effort although I also commented that it wasn't for me and I wouldn't be bookmarking it. If that's not objective enough then maybe I should have added that it wasn't for me as there is already a thread on this very forum which shows all of the loots that contributors have received and includes their screen shots - it doesn't pretend to be an accurate percentage of loot but it does give an indication of what one could expect. In addition the first post of that thread has an index of adventures that I can understand and takes me directly to the adventure of my choosing. Not something that I can do on a site that is in a language I don't understand....


    For those interested in where this page may be I suggest they visit http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/t...-Loot-overview

  4. #14
    EWiggin
    Fishslice cannot provide a screenshot to back up his argument (True but then Stealing From The Rich drops the White Castle 50% of the time then - well it did for me but I don't think that would be a fair comparison upon which to base doing the adventure yourself..... ) then!!

    Ah - but then I see he is using his experience to criticise the OP rather than any objective analysis... There can be no screenshot... He made it up!!!!

    For those interested - the link of the OP appears to provide more accurate info than the anecdotal evidence of a few in Fishslice's link - though this and the OP's link are both usefull in their way....

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    Now hold on a minute EWiggin!
    Where in my original post did I criticise the OP. If the OP was in fact also the originator of the website then I do believe I commended them. If they weren't the originator of the website then nothing in my post criticised the OP. Unless you consider that my lack of Russian doesn't allow me to know exactly what was happening which the OP said it would. And as you pointed it that's more my own ignorance rather than the fault of the OP.


    So how do you propose I provide a screenshot to demonstrate how many SftR adventures I have done? Please enlighten this incompetent fool and I will happily oblige. Oh wait, if its impossible then I am not the incompetent fool. I wonder what that means.......

  6. #16
    EWiggin
    Ah - we are back to tight timescales - fishslice grows more confident!!!

    You commend their time and effort - but won't be adding it to your list of bookmarks.. You provide nothing to substantiate your reasoning - as you say, there was not "sufficient context to enable me to make a judgement".

    So you gave it a kicking for no reason...

    It's not clear whether you have managed to decipher the pictures as yet... It seems not (However improbable that may seem given that they are game images)...

    For those interested - the link of the OP appears to provide more accurate info than the anecdotal evidence of a few in Fishslice's link - though this and the OP's link are both usefull in their way....

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    Fishslice is correct. The size of the data sample is very important in order to properly evaluate the accuracy of this info. Is it one person's data, an entire server's worth? Is it all gathered since the rebalance or does it include data from before. The example given of a 50% White Castle drop rate based on very limited sample sizes illustrates perfectly why this is important. I'm not sure why EWiggin appears to be so strenuously arguing a point he/she doesn't appear to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EWiggin View Post
    You commend their time and effort - but won't be adding it to your list of bookmarks.. You provide nothing to substantiate your reasoning - as you say, there was not "sufficient context to enable me to make a judgement".
    Correct, I will not be adding it to my list of bookmarks. I see nothing wrong with saying well done to someone for the time and effort they expend on an activity, even if I am not a beneficiary of that effort. That's just good manners.


    Quote Originally Posted by EWiggin View Post
    So you gave it a kicking for no reason...
    That's rather harsh. I accept I acknowledged its not for me but could you explain how you interpreted my original post as giving it a kicking?


    Quote Originally Posted by EWiggin View Post
    It's not clear whether you have managed to decipher the pictures as yet... It seems not (However improbable that may seem given that they are game images)...
    Of course I have, I stand by my earlier post in which I acknowledged I wasn't the incompetent fool and as such I can interpret pictures. That being said I am still of the opinion that it is the context that is missing for me and without the context it is still not helpful for me.




    Quote Originally Posted by EWiggin View Post
    Ah - we are back to tight timescales - fishslice grows more confident!!!
    I am neither confident or not confident. I am in fact trying to be civil and respectful in my responses to you although I am struggling to continue in this manner. This thread appears to have moved from off topic from the intent of the thread and as such I will not be responding to further troll like posts in this thread.

  9. #19
    EWiggin
    IainC - perhaps you can show a screenshot where a suggested white castle drop rate of 50% is indicated?

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    You still don't understand the argument you are trying to have.

    You said (bold emphasis mine):

    Quote Originally Posted by EWiggin View Post
    Then again, we could take it at face value and assume the best... A controversial idea in these forums I know!

    And surely a % is a % whatever the baseline...
    In response to this Fishslice noted that:

    Quote Originally Posted by fishslice View Post
    True but then Stealing From The Rich drops the White Castle 50% of the time then - well it did for me but I don't think that would be a fair comparison upon which to base doing the adventure yourself.....
    To which you replied:

    Quote Originally Posted by EWiggin View Post
    IainC - perhaps you can show a screenshot where a suggested white castle drop rate of 50% is indicated?
    Completely missing the point that Fishslice was making. Your continued posting since shows that despite it being explained to you again and again, you still don't understand it. Because I am in a charitable mood however, I shall try once more.

    Fishslice was addressing the incorrect statement you made in the post I quoted above. Specifically the bolded part. A quoted percentage is not always valid, it very much depends on the sample size. Fishslice's anecdotal data points of 2 White Castles from 4 adventures demonstrates why the sample size matters. Nobody has to provide a screenshot showing a 50% drop rate for the White Castle because that's irrelevant to the point that's being made. Fishlice wasn't claiming that the White Castle had a 50% drop rate or that anyone was trying to claim that it did. Rather he/she was claiming the opposite. That everyone knows the White Castle doesn't have a 50% drop rate but, by not having a useful sample size you could draw incorrect conclusions. Which brings us back to the original post. How big is the data sample? Without that info the data presented is no more reliable than Fishslice saying they got two White Castles from 4 SftR adventures.

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