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    Lightbulb Using the new Defensive General (Master of defense)

    Current usage for blocking generals

    Actually slow generals are used usually (in few guides I have seen veteran general in some blocks). When using slow generals the main target to make a good blocking is to use the general in a simulation where you win the 100% of times. Why? because the destruction of the camp give you 1 extra turn... if the blocking time is 5-8 (7.33), it will act as 6-9 (8.33).


    What is happening with the new general?

    Blocking with new general (Master of defense) is different.. why?

    You need to use another aproach for combats with him. The main feature of this general is a very high life, and a small hit. In combats, general is the last unit killed. With this in mind, to raise the number of rounds to the max we will need to destroy the max number of troops, but we will search combats where we lose the 100% of the times. Defensive general will need a lot of rounds to be killed (few enemy troops = small damage).

    Lets see a fast example in horse back.

    In first campament A1 (70 nomads and 40 lance riders) we would have with normal general and 48E

    4-10(5.66), with 99.00 win %.. that means 5-11 (6.66) rounds.

    With the new general, assigning 42E, we get 11-23 (17.55) rounds

    Just by setting 1E more .. 43E, it just drops to 6-22 (17.03) rounds, still a nice average but the min rounds dropped to just 6 (dangerous). This is because we win at least one of combats in simulations (my sim does 10k simulations).

    The important thing to remember is that we get the extra rounds where the general is alone against a small number of enemies.

    VERY IMPORTANT: The new general is a fast general, this means that rounds last for 10 seconds instead of 20, keep this in mind.. because we will need at least 2x times the number of rounds for a longer blocking attack.

    You can use my simulator to do your own tests.

    http://settlersonlinemaps.com/fastsim.php?LangCode=2


    Best regards
    Last edited by FastSimTSOmaps; 29.03.15 at 17:09.

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    So... all in all considered, has anyone concluded that he can be of any extra value for blocking?

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    he's a lootspot gen at best atm, and even then beware the enemy

    on top landing on RB 1R will kill lanceriders

    yet against militia on BK hes useless with 1R

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    he is not a blocker, not a ls general !
    with 50dmg he might not even kill one unit! (instead of a fix 120!)

    He is almost worthless.

    I dont know if trully devoted players will come up with a special block, that cannot be done now, and will be possible with him... but i highly doubt it
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    I have already figured out how to use him for my final blocks on both BN and BK, which allows me to send slow gens home earlier.
    I am sure I shall find more uses for him in time.... so he's pretty far from worthless to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzymandeus View Post
    I have already figured out how to use him for my final blocks on both BN and BK, which allows me to send slow gens home earlier.
    I am sure I shall find more uses for him in time.... so he's pretty far from worthless to me.
    +1 also works on a number of other blocks, decent general for me. Only problem I have is options are limited with just one of them, and a second is 5k+ gems on test atm

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    Hi again

    Another possible use for this general is to make 1R blocks longer than 1 round... that would allow in certain guides to skip a camp where we cant actually

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    Well these have to be implemented in guides. :P
    along with 3rd mma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deorum View Post
    Well these have to be implemented in guides. :P
    along with 3rd mma
    You could always write your own blocks.

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    what a rip off might as well of stuck with normal gen...bb getting greedy i think now coming out with any rubbish so people spend money

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