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    Nords camps by final leader

    As of 11am 13th April, after game update, the leaders on Nords will no longer intercept, if the changes on the change log go ahead. As a result you will need to either kill all 3 camps up by the final leader or block one of them. Gone 1am here so not working out a block - others can play with that maybe. I have simmed all 3 camps up top for minimum losses:

    Right hand camp: 150Karl

    MMA 220XB = Zero losses
    VET 250XB = Zero loss
    MG 100R/170XB = Zero loss

    Middle camp: 150 Housecarl

    MMA 94B/126XB Lose 65 to 94 Bow, Ave 81Bow
    VET 67R/1E/182XB Lose 53-67R, Ave 61R
    MG 55R/1E/214XB Lose 42-55R, Ave 50R

    Left hand camp: 150 Valkyrie

    MMA 220C No loss
    VET 250C No loss
    MG 270C No loss

    You might then want to sim the leader as it may well be possible to lose less militia on it by suiciding

    Also see further down for solutions for the other sectors
    Last edited by lordloocan; 13.04.16 at 10:42.

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    that doesn't look too painful so far- just some extra time and a few extra troops

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    What about the other leaders on the way? Need to kill/block camps at earlier stage as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTobias View Post
    What about the other leaders on the way? Need to kill/block camps at earlier stage as well?
    Assuming you, like me, move to the right hand attack zone, you would still kill the 1st 2 camps together, then use the intercept trick to kill camp 3. However, you will not be able to use the trick of attacking the 2nd camp in sector 2, taking out the camp 4 and the leader of sector 1 along the way. Instead you will need to do the adventure sector by sector. Probably adds about 5/10mins of walking time to the whole thing.

    In addition the guarding camp (50 Housecarl/50Valkyrie) by the 2nd leader (10 Jomsviking/100Housecarl/50 Valkyrie) will now intercept you before you hit the leader, killing this camp can be done with zero losses:

    MMA: 100C/120XB
    VET: 100C/150XB
    MG: 100C/170XB

    OR You can take out the whole of sector 2 using:

    MMA: 16M/5C/199XB straight at the leader (Thanks to Durin_d for this figure below)

    Even if you lose the maximum of 1M at every camp you have a miniscule chance of losing anything other than M at the leader, and even then it would be a maximum of 1C.

    The guarding camps in sector 3 can be killed with:

    75 Valkyrie

    MMA: 120R/100C, Zero loss
    VET: 150R/100C, Zero loss
    MG: 170R/100C, Zero loss


    75 Housecarl:

    MMA: 220XB, Zero loss
    VET: 100R/150XB, Zero loss
    MG: 100R/170XB, Zero loss
    (Can send MMA: 2R 1S 10C 207XB to the leader once the Valkyries are gone and kill this camp and leader for zero loss - thanks to Adian1972)
    Last edited by lordloocan; 13.04.16 at 10:40.

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    2nd sector can be made with the same MMA: 16M 5C 199XB to the leader. That combination will kill the extra 50 Housecarl, 50 Valkyrie camp with ~0,03M losses.

    On 3rd sector the guarding 75 Housecarl camp can be killed with Any: 200XB without losses

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    on the 3rd sector the attack sent at the leader (MMA: 2R 1S 10C 207XB) will kill both the leader and the second guarding camp (75 Housecarl) without loss. The first guarding camp would still need to be dealt with as usual.
    Last edited by Adian1972; 14.04.16 at 11:27. Reason: grammer & clarification

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    So you won't be able to launch an attack on 2nd camp zone2 before killing the L1?

    Seems you will have to attack 3 camps when taking out L3 like Durin said.

    Will have to take a look at the final leader and blocking possibilities for middle camp.
    Maybe reg gen blocking middle, vets to sides with xbs and mma + mg taking out the leader?
    Sounds like a plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adian1972 View Post
    on the 3rd sector the attack sent at the leader (MMA: 2R 1S 10C 207XB) will kill both the leader and guarding camps (75 Housecarl) without loss
    Yes, that works, but don't forget to kill the Valkyrie camp 1st or it will end painfully.

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    on the 3rd sector the attack sent at the leader (MMA: 2R 1S 10C 207XB) will kill both the leader and guarding camps (75 Housecarl) without loss
    But not the valkyries in first guarding camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTobias View Post
    But not the valkyries in first guarding camp.
    See just above. The amusing thing is that with the advent of 1R suicides on MMA's once the final camp is cleared a few 1R at it and the net losses for the whole adventure are less that it was before the changes.
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