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    2nd using mary on a few extra camps, about an extra 50ms

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    The attack on L1 = 203 troops.

    Thanks though

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    (update with some skilled, unskileld options and some more camps not normally visited, for skilsl pls chekc my ToK guide entry in thread

    You get quite alot of extra XP if you don't use RoA (those cmaps are worth 18k and 22k each). Getting there costs loads (hundreds) of Msw though, not sure it's worth it loss to XP vise. Seem to have lost my notes on that.

    C1 5.3k XP
    Mary 200MM, no loss

    L1:
    Nus 60bows
    skilled Mary 45Msw 170B
    unskilled Mary 55Msw 145 B

    C3 5.2k XP
    Mary 32Msw 168MM 31Msw loss (up from 17 with Ans)

    L2: 9k XP
    skilled Mary 20Msw 195AM

    L3 4.8k XP (L2 and L3 is a double block, if got skilled Mary use her on L2)
    Mary 35Msw 79AM 86MM loss ~35Msw
    skilled Mary 32Msw 183MM

    C7 6k XP
    Mary 32Msw 168+MM loss 31Msw (3 more than Vargus)

    L4 5.6k XP
    Mary 200+ MM, no loss

    L6: 5839 XP
    skilled Mary 40Msw 6M 168MM, loss ~39Msw ~6M

    unlisted, ~5290 XP, 50 swordwielders 90 desert marksmen 90 stonecannon
    W1: veteran 250 bows, skilled Mary 215MM loss 250bows

    unlisted, 7980 XP, 30 dune marksmen 200 stonecannon
    skilled Mary 215MM
    W1 45bows, W2: unskilled Mary 1MM 199AM, loss 45 bows

    L10: 6k XP
    Mary 2Msw 198+MM, 2 MSw loss

    C12 7.5k XP (former blocked camp)
    Mary 26Msw 174MM, 26 MSw loss
    skilled Mary 19Msw 196 MM, 18 Msw loss

    L13 4.5k XP
    Mary 32Msw 168MM, 31Msw loss ( about double up from Anslem) if you have Dracs, use 'em here, though can also save them for L14 to reduce losses there
    Last edited by SnowBlizz; 09.02.18 at 16:30.

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    watching this with great interest but would help if you put the attacks to what camps as some of you are just showing what xp you gained but with no info to what you attacked with what troops isnt really helping ...have the books to skill my new gen just unsure the best combo surprised no one picked the skill so you could at least sucide her at least once per map just to milk that xp with the skill that boosts xp nice 130% could have a decent boost on xp as i hate doing adventures so anything that gets me there faster the better lol

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    259k XP YWC with Mery hitting 4 camps..can be five and will try later. No loses to her and 140 MS lost for the Adv in total



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    http://prntscr.com/hnq21y

    First aid,Hostile Take and Jugg are only used because the skill tree requires..She will never need First or Jugg as she will never take a 2nd Rd hit for me but good to see others with 289k XP..She is good value.
    Last edited by cheethamhill; 15.12.17 at 04:52.

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    Actually, First Aid isn't that bad, after all. Mary can be used on some camps with 20-30 MS losses, just like other generals (because of some first strike units among bandits), so it will be useful in those cases.

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    Here's my version of 3rd Thief: https://tinyurl.com/y97ynv7p

    Requires Skilled Generals as per Evil J, plus 1-up MMA's, 1-up Dracs, and Skilled Mary (details in guide).

    Gets 216k XP (plus premium). Losses of 388r, 220-240MS, 20M, 24K.

    Same link also now has 430k XP (plus premium) version of Treasure of Wisdom.
    Last edited by noxidjkram; 10.01.18 at 03:16. Reason: Added ToW

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowBlizz View Post
    Treasure of Wisdom (evilj skileld map)
    C1 5.3k XP
    Mary 200MM, no loss
    ...
    hi, what skills do you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFoC View Post
    hi, what skills do you use?
    SnowBlizz's notes on 1st Thief and ToW are for Mary without skills (just as mine in the first post) - we only use Evil_J's guides for skilled generals as reference for camps numbers.
    Last edited by Kris3457; 15.12.17 at 12:11.

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    Not sure about the xp from camp but in Woodcutter camp C2: 110 Desert Marksman, 100 Stone Cannon I used 100am 100 mm in Mary and no loss.
    I cannot figure from your chart what the losses are. Als can you explain how you get the xp from mary for an individual camp,

    On the camp after the first leader 80 Sword Wielder and 80 Mounted Bowmen once you get rid of the bowmen with several mma attacks u can use mary with 10 ms and rest mm and 2-3 lost ms

    On the camp before leader 3 c8 on your post 90 Sword Clasher, 90 Stone Cannon I used Mary with 100 am 100 mm with 0 losses

    and on your C12 one 100 Desert Marksman, 100 Stone Cannon also 100am and 100 mm with 0 losses

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