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    The losses are simply Mounted Swordsmen (all of them in worst case scenario).
    About Ali Baba, the Young Woodcutter, initially, I had only C2 / C8 / C12 as camps for Mary Christmas and 2MoS 95ArM 103MoM seemed the best common denominator (I know 100ArM 100MoM will work almost always, but there's a small risk of losses, that's why I prefer to add 2 MS to protect Armored Marksmen).
    Some combat simulators show XP from single camps).

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    If you want to sim Mary, using TSO FastSim , whats equivalent, a BHG ?

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    yes, thats what i use with added books

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    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    Recently updated with Boris attacks.
    Last edited by dreaduk; 03.05.19 at 18:13.

  5. #35
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    Young Woodcutter using Mary with +3 fast learner

    got 298,857 Exp on premium (199,238 + 99,619)


    playing all my usual camps and using Mary where losses were only Mounted Swordsman


    using Evil J guide


    Mary used on:

    L1,L2,L3, and L4

    and these bonus camps:

    50 horseman, 50 dunesmarksmen
    90 Swordclasher, 100 desertmarksmen
    100 desertmarksmen, 100 stone cannon

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    Treasure of Knowledge, evilj skileld mpa for numbers (i'll update ina bit)
    Where it says skilled Mary (unless I mention specific skills) my Mary uses 3x Jugger, 3x First Aid, 2x Jog, 3x Overrun, 3x Unstoppable Charge, 3x Fast Learner, 3x Garrison Annex and Master Planner.
    Spoiler


    Sometimes you can adjsut Wave1s for skills and such. I leave that as an excerise for the class.

    C3 4.6-4.8k XP (after W1)
    W1: Vet(+) 250Bow, Mary 111 MM 89AM
    W1: any(+) 200B, W2: skilled* Mary 215 MM
    *need Garrison Annex x3, Juggernaught x3 AND (Unstoppable Charge x3 OR Master Planner)
    (+) the number of bows needed will vary depending on skills, your target is to suicide down to max 13 Swordwielders
    C4 5.5k XP (after W1)
    W1: Nusala(+) 180Bow, W2 unskilled Mary 20Msw 180 MM (loss 20Msw, skills decreases losses)
    (+) skill as appropriate, but need to make sure no Desert Marksmen survive, may need an extra MMA suicide if Nusala doesn't have Master Planner.
    C10 3.9k XP (after W1-3) or 4.7k XP
    skilled* Mary 35 Msw 180 MM loss ~35Msw
    *need Garrison Annex x3, Juggernaught x3, Unstoppable Charge x3, Master Planner
    W1-W3: 1r MMA(+), unskilled Mary 25Msw 175 MM loss 25Msw
    (+) need to kill down to 63 Horsemen, obviously can do this with a skilled Mary too to cut losses.
    L3 5.1k XP
    unskilled Mary 45 MSw 110 MM 45 B, loss 45Msw
    skilled Mary 45 Msw 170 MM, loss <45 Msw (double a skilled Anslem)
    C11 4.2k XP, 4-4.1k XP after W1
    skilled* Mary 215MM, no loss
    *Garrison Annex x3
    W1 any 30 Bows W2, unskilled Mary 200MM, loss 30 Bowmen
    C12 5.4k XP
    Mary 200 MM, no loss
    C14 5-5.1k XP / for unskilled 3.9k XP after W1
    W1: Drac 15 R/ MMA 1MM W2: skilled* Mary 215 MM, no loss/15r
    W1: any 140 Bow,W2: unskilled Mary 200 MM, 140 or less Bowmen
    L4 4.3k XP
    unskilled Mary 44Msw 4Kn 152B, loss 42MSw 3 Kn
    skilled Mary 40Msw 6 M 45 MM 124 B, loss ~39Msw, ~6M
    unlisted camp,80 Swordclasher 80 Horseman 80 Desert Marksmen, 5.1k XP
    skilled Mary 32Msw 183 MM, loss 32Msw
    can be done unskilled with W1 Nusala 140cav(+), W2 Mary 15MSw 185MM (camp worth only 3.9k for Mary then) (+) or however you want to do it, get down to max 40 Horsemen, may be worth skipping if not skilled Mary
    C16 5.7k XP
    unskilled Mary 32 Msw 168 MM, loss 32Msw
    skilled Mary 32Msw 183 MM, loss 32Msw
    C17 8.5k XP
    skilled Mary 33Msw 120 AM 62 MM, loss 32Msw
    unskilled Mary 40 Msw 120 AM 39 MM, loss 40 Msw
    unlisted camp,80 Swordclasher 80 Stonecannon 80 Desert Marksmen, ~6.1k XP
    W1: Drac 1 MM W2: skilled Mary 215 MM, no loss
    W1: any 120Bows W2: unskilled Mary 200MM, loss 120 bows
    C18 5.8k XP
    skilled Mary 32 MSw 183 MM, loss 32 Msw (Drac, cavalry, MMA suicides will cut down losses)
    W1 Nusala 140 cav W2: unskilled Mary 15Msw 185MM, loss 140 cav 15 Msw (only 3.8k XP for losses though)
    C19 6.1k XP after W1
    W1: any 67 bows W2: skilled Mary 15 MSw 200 MM, loss 67 bows 15 Msw
    W1: any 185 bows W2: unskilled Mary 15 MSw 185 MM, loss 185 bows 15 Msw (only 5.1k XP for losses though)
    L8 6.1K XP
    skilled Mary 10 Msw 205 MM

    C24 5.8k XP
    Mary 40 Msw, 99 AM, 75 MM
    L9 6.5k XP
    skilled Mary 5 Msw 210 MM, loss 5Msw
    W1: 50 Bows, W2: unskilled Mary 5 Msw, 95 AM, 100 MM. loss 50 Bows, 5Msw (6k XP W2)
    unlisted camp, 260 Dune marksmen 6.7k XP
    unskilled Mary 200 MM, no loss
    unlisted camp, 70 Swordclashers, 70 Dune marksmen, 80 stoen cannons, 6.6k XP
    unskilled Mary 200 MM, no loss
    make sure to kill these before L11 if blocking C27 as it clears sector
    C27 4.4k XP
    skilled Mary 36 Msw 179 MM, loss ~35Msw
    L10 5.2k XP
    skilled Mary 36 Msw 6M 173 MM, loss ~35Msw ~6M
    L11 4.5k XP
    skilled Mary 36 Msw 179 MM, loss ~35Msw
    L12 5k XP
    (un)skilled Mary 44Msw, 156+ MM, loss ~42Msw (double Anslem losses)
    C29 5.7k XP
    (un)skilled Mary 48Msw, 152+ MM, loss ~42Msw (double Anslem losses)
    Last edited by SnowBlizz; 20.12.17 at 21:29.

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    Derp! Fixed. Probably not the only typo in there, took me 3 days to do.

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    would it be poss to have the whats in the camp we are hitting for 1st thief snowblizz please as I might be a bit slow and cant quite work out what camps you mean for all attacks I don't use evils guides I use the wiki ones sorry to be a royal pain in butt lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacar View Post
    Young Woodcutter using Mary with +3 fast learner

    got 298,857 Exp on premium (199,238 + 99,619)


    playing all my usual camps and using Mary where losses were only Mounted Swordsman


    using Evil J guide


    Mary used on:

    L1,L2,L3, and L4

    and these bonus camps:

    50 horseman, 50 dunesmarksmen
    90 Swordclasher, 100 desertmarksmen
    100 desertmarksmen, 100 stone cannon
    what troops did you use in each camp that you used mary on i just started a YWC and L2 looks like heavy damage just using MS

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeShmoe View Post
    If you want to sim Mary, using TSO FastSim , whats equivalent, a BHG ?
    This one from German sites had Mary: http://www.dsosim.de/sim.php

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