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    Ali Baba and the 1st Thief

    Found an extra camp, with only max 4MS extra losses, it does need the right skills though

    Sector 2 Leader: 120SwCl 120DM 1Smart Thief
    XP=5240
    Mary skills needed (!): 3xCharge 3xAnnex & MasterPlanner
    Mary: 4MS 211MM (losses: 2-4MS)

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    2nd Thief (exapnded ) evil-j skilled CoA map as base

    Basically the camps I founf where an uskileld and skileld amry can reasonably kill. I've not bothered with 100+ elite unit loss wins, too expensive IMO.

    kill these before tackling L1 and L2
    C1 5.2k XP
    Mary 30Msw 170+ MM, loss <30 Msw
    C2 5.5k XP
    Mary 30Msw 170+ MM, loss <30 Msw
    unlisted camp 100 Horseman 100 stone cannon 5.8k XP
    Mary 40Msw 160 MM loss <40Msw
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    L3 1.7k XP
    Mary 5Msw 195MM, loss <5sw
    skilled* Mary 5 Msw 210 MM, loss 1-2 Msw
    * key skills are Garrison Annex and Overrun to cut down loss from 4 to 1-2
    L4 2.8k XP
    Mary 45MSw 25Kn 130+B, loss ~45Msw <15Kn (double Anslem losses)
    I don't recommend using Mary here as it's only shade under 3k extra
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    unlisted camp 90 dune marksmen 90 stone cannon 5.5k XP
    Mary 200MM no loss

    C7 5.9k XP (~1k XP lost to W1)
    W1: any 125(+) Bows W2: unskilled Mary 200MM, loss 125 Bows
    (+) skills on general or Mary will cut losses and increase XP, do your numbers
    skilled Mary* 215MM no loss
    *need Garrison Annex x3, Unstoppable charge x3, Master Planner

    C8 6.2k XP
    W1: any 200C, W2: 30 Msw 170 MM, loss 200C 30 Msw (lose <800XP to W1)
    skilled* Mary 40Msw 175 MM, loss <40Msw
    *need Master Planner and Garrison Annex x3

    L7 5.4k XP
    Mary 200MM no loss

    L8 ~3.4k XP after W1
    W1: skilled Nusala* 180C, W2: skilled Mary 26 Msw 38 AM 151 MM, loss 180C 26 Msw
    *2x Jugger, 3x Unstoppable charge, 3x Garrison Annex as "active" skills


    shade over 201k, XP no prem but (almsot) all gens +30% where not Mary +30%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordloocan View Post
    This one from German sites had Mary: http://www.dsosim.de/sim.php
    English combat sim site that have Mary: http://en.tsomaps.com/adv-calc
    There is a world of imagination
    Deep in the corners of your mind
    Where reality is an intruder
    And myth and legend thrive

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    Updated 1st thief a bit with some options.

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    On L2 on evil j map of YWC you can use mary mine is skilled 75MS 60AM 80MM kills it with a loss of 29MS

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    Using Mary with no skills to attack 6 camps adds about 5k experience

    S1: last guard before leader Mary 200xb (no losses)
    S2: Northern camp (150K) can be skipped but Mary 200xb (no losses)
    S3: 1st guard around leader (75V) Mary 200c (no losses)
    S4 Southern camp (50H 25V) can be skipped but Mary 65c 135xb (no losses)
    S5 Right guard camp (150K) Mary 200xb (no losses)
    S5 Left guard camp (150V) Mary 200c (no losses)

    Probably a few lower level adventures where Mary can be useful

    Bracewell

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    Quote Originally Posted by bracewell View Post
    Nords
    Using Mary with no skills to attack 6 camps adds about 5k experience

    S1: last guard before leader Mary 200xb (no losses)
    S2: Northern camp (150K) can be skipped but Mary 200xb (no losses)
    S3: 1st guard around leader (75V) Mary 200c (no losses)
    S4 Southern camp (50H 25V) can be skipped but Mary 65c 135xb (no losses)
    S5 Right guard camp (150K) Mary 200xb (no losses)
    S5 Left guard camp (150V) Mary 200c (no losses)

    Bracewell
    Thank you.
    Here are my remarks or questions.

    I'm not sure which camp in S1 Nords you mean
    In this sector, you can use unskilled Mary [1ES 69Cav 130XBow] on the very first camp [100 Karl, 50 Valkyrie] worth 750XP.
    In S3, you're right, but this camp has only 225XP, better to use Mary [200XB] on the camp below Leader, [75 Housecarl] worth 750XP
    If you only want to attack one camp in S5, choose Mary 200XB to attack the 150 Karl worth 900XP (the Valkyrie camp is 450 XP).

    Of course there are more camps for Mary to hit (sector 1 has most camps in double versions, for 1st (left side) and 2nd (right side) player landzones - only Wolf Trap and Leader are single camps). Before Leader 2 there's camp [50 Housecarl, 50 Valkyrie] where unskilled Mary [1ES 69Cav 130XBow] can get the extra 650XP, but this would mean using Mary 2-3 times in each sector, which would slow you down.
    Last edited by Kris3457; 30.12.17 at 11:06.

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    mary xmas for nords (unskilled), some extra camps can be killed but dont need to be, gives extra 7k xp.
    a = crossbowman
    c = cavalry
    e = elite soldier
    r = recruit

    be careful of intercepts



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    808k xp Wisdom No ROA
    http://prntscr.com/hsjjg7
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

    close to 800ms lost, really don't recommend it.

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    anyone found a guide for Suprise Attack yet for the mary gen?

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