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    It would be nice to actually see the details of the new quest officially published - if they are I haven't noticed them. I don't like this new "if you want to know what it is go to the test server" answer that seems to be becoming more prevalent. Why not just show the details in the update post?
    Sorry, but I've slept since then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkz View Post
    Those are random occurences you cant actually plan for or rehearse beforehand. Software deployment is nowhere near as random.



    You dont plan for things to run smoothly, instead you do the testing and make sure all the potential risks are found and adressed to the best of your ability.

    The problem with BB deployments is that they seem to not even eliminate the obvious issues, which makes it looks not like a random event you couldnt possibly plan for, but instead a blunder in the release process (or something that doesnt get tested at all).
    Only a tiny proportion of players make use of test server .. and then most only go to have a quick look at whats coming ... without really testing the stuff out and as a result many issues dont get found by a few hundred players (if that) testing on test compared to thousands of players across a number of servers.

    Take a look at the amount of feedback on test forums for previous updates such as general skills compared to the amount of feedback/complaints/suggestions on these forums as an example.

    If you dont think stuff is tested adequately for this free game .. maybe more players could put some time into helping properly test stuff out AND provide feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xibor View Post
    It would be nice to actually see the details of the new quest officially published - if they are I haven't noticed them. I don't like this new "if you want to know what it is go to the test server" answer that seems to be becoming more prevalent. Why not just show the details in the update post?
    Wiki has had them on the front page since 22nd March - scroll to the bottom of it and you will find the details from test server .. as always stuff on test may change before coming to live servers but it should give a good idea still.

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    but can bb tell us if and when Snow White will be dropping 2 recipes?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tierarzt View Post
    You'll be asking BB to play game for you next...

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckydiddy View Post
    Only a tiny proportion of players make use of test server .. and then most only go to have a quick look at whats coming ... without really testing the stuff out and as a result many issues dont get found by a few hundred players (if that) testing on test compared to thousands of players across a number of servers.
    Test server is completely irrelevant since it shoud serve a completely different purpose.

    Any halfdecent company does their own testing, which is mainly driven by (but not limited to):

    - assuring it is done right (which you cant expect from a bunch of random people with no necesary qualifications or desire to actually contribute)
    - more importantly, trying to avoid exposing customers to a potentially faulty product as long as there is time to improve it

    If this is not the case here and we are bound to be facing issues because unpaid players dont contribute enough towards quality of a product they are not actually responsible of, then there is something seriously wrong here.
    Last edited by sparkz; 18.04.18 at 13:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckydiddy View Post
    Only a tiny proportion of players make use of test server .. and then most only go to have a quick look at whats coming ... without really testing the stuff out and as a result many issues dont get found by a few hundred players (if that) testing on test compared to thousands of players across a number of servers.

    Take a look at the amount of feedback on test forums for previous updates such as general skills compared to the amount of feedback/complaints/suggestions on these forums as an example.

    If you dont think stuff is tested adequately for this free game .. maybe more players could put some time into helping properly test stuff out AND provide feedback.
    The reason very few now test stuff on the test server is the long history of us finding bugs for BB and these still being there when the updates/events go live. Why should we bother if they cannot bother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckydiddy View Post
    Wiki has had them on the front page since 22nd March - scroll to the bottom of it and you will find the details from test server .. as always stuff on test may change before coming to live servers but it should give a good idea still.
    True... but as one great post quite a while back mentioned "Wiki's can be wrong". And what is published there as well as what is on the test server can (and has) changed before release - I don't count on the anything unless I see a Dev Diary.
    Sorry, but I've slept since then...

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