[Feedback] Sneak Peek: Co-op adventure rewards

[Kotugo]

is anything going to be done about some of the other drop rates that were heavily reduced a while ago

isle of the pirates->motherly love
witch of the swamp->old friends
bandit nest->return to bandit nest

[MuffinMule]

Good move on the health bar.
As regards boosting the loot on the Co-ops to make them more appealing, why not apply the same logic and restore the proper loot to adventures like Outlaws?
We were given a choice of ways to play when the game started, then those of us who had developed our islands to produce iron swords by adventuring instead of using up space to accomodate an already overloaded iron chain got punished when you decided you only wanted us to play that way instead.
Speaking of loot, EotW is long overdue for some loot and appropriate xp rewards.

[Qaw-Paw]

hmm

[robblack1]

thanks for replacing health bar well done

[Urd123]

Good move on the health bar.
As regards boosting the loot on the Co-ops to make them more appealing, why not apply the same logic and restore the proper loot to adventures like Outlaws?
We were given a choice of ways to play when the game started, then those of us who had developed our islands to produce iron swords by adventuring instead of using up space to accomodate an already overloaded iron chain got punished when you decided you only wanted us to play that way instead.
Speaking of loot, EotW is long overdue for some loot and appropriate xp rewards.

It is true that some adv are done once and never again because they are not that interesting or that the loot is crabby. Cant say that outlaw fit that category. Would instead mention VtV, Wild Mary, GP, - to some extend SE. I like doing it - but the loot does in no way match the losses. Compared to etc VLT SE is a joke.
So some balancing would be great and maybe make more use of the advs.

[SSSecretSquirrel]

Camp health bar reverting to the old version is great news, thank you.

I like the proposed changes to co-op loot but would like to point out some things:

Co-ops are unpopular because the lag is almost unbearable, getting worse the more players are on the map.

There are still issues with landing zones on WW.

I wish there were Ali co-ops.

SLT and BK are still the best co-ops. Yes they are, you're wrong.

This!
The normal multiplayer adventures are the real coops!
Not something like Tomb Raider which is a single player adventure for 4 players which is utter nonsense! Everyone does their own thing and parts ways. No cooperation possible.

[sparkz]

Thank you for listening to the players..

If they were actually listening to players feedback, this change would've never gotten past the test server.

EotW is long overdue for some loot and appropriate xp rewards.

XP rewards are appropriate, if you clear an adventure with 1/10th the camps compared to the other one you will get 1/10th of the experience. There is no way to change that outside of :

- increasing the xp numbers for enemy units across the board (which will affect all of the adventures utilizing the same type of units, effectively maintaining the status quo)
- redoing the maps completely to make space for increased number of camps (which will not happen).

[Ozzymandeus]

Would instead mention VtV, Wild Mary, GP, - to some extend SE. I like doing it - but the loot does in no way match the losses.

Loot compared to losses is way better for VtV than for SE, largely because it is a resource adventure and so has 2 slots of Granite/ExoWood/Salt/TitOre. Actually having done the math, the loot for VtV is largely comparable to RB. You get a little less copper/coal/iron/etc. with VtV and there's no chance of a Witch Tower drop, but I haven't had one of those in RB loot for years now.

As for the losses on VtV, with even a fraction of the number of MMAs available these days, it is possible to significantly reduce or even eliminate cavalry losses from the adventure and the 'big boss camp' in the Northeast corner can be done losing only Recruits and Bowmen if you use a Nusala sacrifice followed up with a cannon based attack.

On the other hand, Secluded Experiments uses up considerably more troops than Victor, for comparatively little extra in the way of resources, a tiny chance of a follow up and a tiny chance of an Angel Gate. I do enjoy playing it however, and do it quite regularly. Nevertheless I can count the number of follow ups I have received on one hand and have yet to have an Angel Gate in loot. So, Victor the Vicious is way more efficient in terms of loot, in my opinion.

Needless to say, I am glad to see the co-op loots getting some attention. I just hope this is a prelude to some of the other adventures mentioned across the forums getting some attention in this regard as well. The idea of Seasonal Adventures was a good one, but seems to be turning into little more than a 'sticking plaster' solution.

[Peajay]

How about changing Roaring Bull back to how it used to be before it was nerfed as well?

[Yarkee]

+1 Good idea and a step in right direction.

* Once we sent the general, we can do nothing to speed up camp destruction, hence camp HP bar is meaningless. + the last update prevents displaying of camp setup while sending the attack. Reverting this is a good idea.
* Loot & XP from coop Advs were poor at their launch, and not much changed ever since. I've seen a number of Whirlwinds failed, becasuse one of the players took a week-break from playing and the rest could do nothing about that.