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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammok View Post
    So if I understand this correctly, in order to get the full 20% from Scout Post I should

    1. remove all enhancements from all generals

    2. don't use Mary on any of these ventures

    3. kill every camp with unskilled generals

    and then I can enjoy the 20% bonus?
    umm, no, that is not how it works
    you will always get the 20% of the base xp

    so if a camp gave 100 xp
    scout buff would give 20xp
    mary gen give additional 100xp
    and 30% gen skills give 30 xp
    so added together you get 100+20+100+30 = 250xp then add prem
    without the scout buff you get 230xp, so the increase seems like 8%, but the scout buff % is based on base xp not overall xp
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    ah right, so its not 20% at all, its 8% ish, thank you for explanation.

    I've demolished mine for now anyway, long way to go to get 100k population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammok View Post
    ah right, so its not 20% at all, its 8% ish, thank you for explanation.

    I've demolished mine for now anyway, long way to go to get 100k population.
    Wrong your actual mileage will vary depending on what ratio of camps you kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorotheus View Post
    Wrong your actual mileage will vary depending on what ratio of camps you kill.
    I get 7.5% killing every single camp, no blocking, blockers and those that miss a camp or two can expect half that or less.

    Not seen or heard of anyone getting higher than 7.5%, but maybe MCC give higher return on what you would get usually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammok View Post
    I get 7.5% killing every single camp, no blocking, blockers and those that miss a camp or two can expect half that or less.

    Not seen or heard of anyone getting higher than 7.5%, but maybe MCC give higher return on what you would get usually.
    Looks like BB have finally come up with something to counter blocks, which they've never encouraged in the first place.
    If you want to optimise the scouting post, it seems best to forget about any block and attack every single camp.

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    The scouting post is rubbish and doesn't work, by design. It needs a serious rethink and redesign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiswitzend View Post
    Sounds about right from testing
    Nope. You are still getting the 20% bonus. You're just not calculating it right.
    You are expecting (Base_Value+GeneralSkillsBonus%) + 20%.
    It's (Base_Value + 20%) + (Base Value + GeneralSkillBonus%). The 20% doesn't go on top of the bonus that the general earns. It only goes on the base value of the camp. I don't have the data concerning camps destroyed due to taking out the leader and the information seems to be mixed about that. But it seems you're expecting to get the exp you got before (which includes bonuses from skills) to increase 20%. It doesn't seem to work that way.

    Another way to check is to look at the Wiki base value. Add 20%. You will be getting more than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t00tie View Post
    The scouting post is rubbish and doesn't work, by design. It needs a serious rethink and redesign.
    Wonderful - please send me yours. I like it.

    I fail to see how an increase is bad. Perhaps you think it's too much of a cost?
    Last edited by Xibor; 09.10.18 at 20:35.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xibor View Post
    Nope. You are still getting the 20% bonus. You're just not calculating it right.
    You are expecting (Base_Value+GeneralSkillsBonus%) + 20%.
    It's (Base_Value + 20%) + (Base Value + GeneralSkillBonus%). The 20% doesn't go on top of the bonus that the general earns. It only goes on the base value of the camp. I don't have the data concerning camps destroyed due to taking out the leader and the information seems to be mixed about that. But it seems you're expecting to get the exp you got before (which includes bonuses from skills) to increase 20%. It doesn't seem to work that way.

    Another way to check is to look at the Wiki base value. Add 20%. You will be getting more than that.
    More than 20% woo hooo!!

    let me check my calculations, nope, still 7.5% on what i would normally get. And that's killing all.

    t00tie got it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammok View Post
    More than 20% woo hooo!!

    let me check my calculations, nope, still 7.5% on what i would normally get. And that's killing all.

    t00tie got it right.
    So you are saying the base value shown by the Wiki is only increasing by 7.5% for you? Wow!

    According to the Wiki the value for Woodcutter is 139,962
    My records show I earn 185,000
    When I play it with the scouting post I get 196,000

    139,962 + 20% = 167,954. But I'm getting 196,000.

    Hmm..... looks like good bonus to me
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