Claims that all cores are from google. No he doesn't.Originally Posted by sparkz
Claims that all cores are from google. No he doesn't.
Many years ago one of the BB's on the test forum said the redesign of the trade system a couple of years previously had lead to how players now use the star menu had resulted in a unintended and unwanted result. A brief dialog with the players on that forum was started on ways to solve the problem was unfortunately terminated by BB.
Instead of giving us more ways to use resources all you have done over the intervening years is ways to produce and gain more resources. You have unbalanced the economy more and more over the years. You have quite literally tried to fix the problem of too much money in the economy by printing even more money and giving yourselves a pat on the back for your brilliance.
Finally you give us this Guild Fest to fix the problem. Within a day into the event it's quite clear that you failed to define what the problem was and that you have also failed to ask yourself can the players defeat our solution. Basically the smart ones will be converting their assets into assets not used into this event and the dumb ones will be shifting them to offshore accounts.
You have also failed to allow that voting the cemetery will skew the results.
Cylancer, most used are, where its edge, chrome, opera, some that use them as base, they use chromium core. Ofc, if you look, you will find some that still develop the core, question is penetration in user base.
Its kinda like Linux vs. Windows, Linux might have nice functions and such, but penetration its too slow/low. So on Windows PC, chromium is say 80-90%. Maybe you will dispute a bit less, but defo most use browsers based on chromium core.
Edit: did have some look, so Firefox and whats based on it is not chromium, thats about 7% of users, then Safari Mac only, ofc Apple ecosystem was not what I was talking about.
Edit2: you can have a look here: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-m...ktop/worldwide
so counting in safari 80%+ on chromium.
Last edited by First_Lord; 04.12.24 at 14:09.
USA has less than 5% of the world population. Does that mean that they do not exist.
Even if Statcounter is valid source (it is not, it doesn't differentiate bots, AVs, crawlers etc. from users; and sample is too small) it says that Safari (which uses WebKit) has 18%. Also, there is no private browsers based on chromium and most of them are not taken in account.
TSO uses Unity, so the browser engine is not important. Game works (or not) same on Blink, Gecko, Goana and WebKit (didn't try it).
Lol, so you changed from desktop to world to point out safari on 18, which includes mobiles, that BB decided to ignore anyway, if you know about IT, you should know no big players care about optimization on anything that's minor, so 2-5% or less of use, that's not normal user, pointless, have seen plenty of IT folks with good products and yours argument, that couldn't get into them, that simple, for example, normal non-IT user wont compile, wants simple installer, and when it comes to minor browser, devs not optimizing code for good proper run on them.
Even BB asking players to enter dev console in browser to delete DB should not be done and they losing common users. BB decided not to be mobile, and most of desktop is chromium. There might be 25+ browsers out there, but if most basic users have chrome, thats it. Regular folk goes on facebook not by writing facebook.com into browser, but by googling facebook and then clicking on first result, every good dev should have that in mind.
You work for users, not them for you, esp. if you want to have nice income and big base.
For your pointy picking argument, there are other options, but in this case, you optimize for chromium, and it has to be done not only by BB, but by Unity as well, and that part BB uses, is just minor part of their software with Unity team focus on other tech used by more wealthy customers.
I was in the minority that wasn't able to play during the Halloween event. No one cared about us, and you are justifying that. I couldn't use the game using any of browsers.
FYI: TSO works on mobile devices (when it works at all).
https://disk.yandex.com/i/luOKQ99Fch2-dA
Topic here is the event, not your point of view that minority that has problem with game should shut up and abandon the game. If 99% players can play, it doesn't help us that cannot. Different browser engine does not fix game login (crash) problems nor game bugs, no matter how many people use it.
Most I have talked to have this problem. We are kicked from the game - by a message saying "an error has occurred. Most of the time when we then try to log back in - the homepage will not load. We then maybe get a partly loaded homepage - with green background color and German text.
Sometimes this is when we try to open page before we log in. Normally if we wait ½ an hour or so- the problems is resolved.
As far as I remember this started around the time of the Halloween event. But we have had similar problems as far back as I can remember, just not as bad as it has been recently.
You cant really expect players to keep reporting it - for the last at least 6 month - no one in support or reading this forum seems to care. If that has changed then that is great. It is in the hope of that, that I post this.
Greetings Urd.
Cylancer, you didn't get it, what I`m pointing out for long time is BB should have gone not with Unity, coz that part they use exists, but is minority (BB might be one of 2 customers there. lol.), was on Unity webpage today, and they are shifting business away from games only by look on it. By major companies HTML5 was set as standard for those, there are trend setters (big companies) and trend followers, as BB, Ubi are not trend setters, they should follow practices dictated by setters, not finding "easy" workarounds, coz it kicks back.
And I said changing browser wont sort problems, coz those BB has are not so much on browser side. What will folks try when you tell them try other browser? switch from chrome to edge or opera or vice versa? still on chromium anyway. some small % might try firefox switch, or some Apple folks (forgetting about those as not apple ever here) can try switch to chrome from Safari, if option there, dunno, on Win they prob wont try Safari, coz apple stopped some years ago, only old nonpatched version out there. Switching browser not really point, and most will be on similar anyway. Trying to find some small browser where it will work its kinda pointless. Maybe old version of something that was around when Unity folks were in full compliance with their webgame unity part that BB uses would work, but it would be unsafe, as old not patched. Back in 2020 when BB did the switch you could even find the name of that part of Unity on main page, now its not even there, only 3D, cloud and such content. So question is how long will Unity support it.
I`m saying BB should test their game on major browsers, as good practice is. Players (customers) should not care about clearing browser cache/cookies, db over dev console as their support suggests, when they put new version on the server, there should be code that does that, if its necessary.
And any way/possibility on how to play game on mobile, tablet, if it requires guide done by players, will be just ignored by majority. those are for hardcore only. Kinda same as running games on Linux in Wine or such. If you want to have big audience, you must go major way all know.
If you run over my past posts, I always say its not players fault, its BBs and they should sort out the mess. Stop with workarounds and excuses. I even often mention stop bringing new stuff, sort out the mess first.
Back to what BB wants to know, today, amount of autorefreshes after general ERROR visited me has increased, not so many visits to island of MAINTENANCE. As I was here on forum, so has the amount of times unable to refresh, do something on forum due to DB error.
Still, if you dont sort out the cause for it, even with auto refreshes, it will be annoying, coz some of them happened on addy filling in gen with army, or sending attack, prob something happened on island, coz on return had quests completed in questbook (still beyond me, how text quests can crash the game, or expl. returning, or collies spawning).
Edit: or this game cannot recover when being minimalized when doing something else in other browser.
period.
If they had an actual team doing actual work, this wouldnt have to be mutually exclusive.
Also its not like they're adding alot of new stuff that requires actual work outside of what should be reusing existing code. What they do and how they do it heavily hints they dont even have 1 person working on this game full time.
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