If I take out camp 1-8 in sector 9, will I only get XP for they skipped camps or will I get war-booty too?
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If I take out camp 1-8 in sector 9, will I only get XP for they skipped camps or will I get war-booty too?
You can beat Chuck (+50 Dogs + 49 Rangers + 100 Roughnecks) in 2 waves:
1: 115 C
2: 90 M 110 LB
You will loose 115 cavalry + 90 M and about 32 LB
OMG! I lost against mary with this:
Bandit Leader (Wild Mary + 199 Dogs) [1: 200C 2: 35M 50S 115LB (200C 35M 45S)]
Second wave was destroyed, attacked mary + 10 dogs. Lost like 5 days of production :(. Those numbers need to be made more secure
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Originally Posted by Todilo
Of course you lost cus you didn't kill all dogs. ALL DOGS MUST BE REMOVED IF YOU ATTACK WILD MARY with second wave. Otherwise you lose or need really a lot of high level units.
To avoid this, won't believe everything and simulate battles!!!
There is clearly said that first wave is 200C. That would kill all dogs. If you won't do 1st wave like its said, then 2nd wave is really a big mess if you won't simulate or calculate the battles...
Battle simulator
To everybody:
Also make sure you think, look battles, analyse and learn yourself too, not only follow by guides and threads, cus there's not enough answers to every question, you should be able to solve some of them yourself too.
bibumo is correct, as i state in the beginning is that you should always calculate things yourself. also are you sure you send in 200 cavelary for the dogs? cause if you had 10 dogs left i doubt you had send 200 cavelary.
So i was working on my guide and there are so many things that could be added. like skipped camps etc. I was wondering what you guys are most interested in from the list below.
- Add the Skipped Camps (With Recruits & low amounts of bow/longbow)
- Add Lowest Loss possible (with militia / longbows / Cavalry without losing those)
- Add Your idea here?
I must have been blind when I sent the cavalery in, 189 not 199(need glasses). So 25 out of 26 is far better odds than 1 out of 3. I usually do simulations on my own, trying to improve the amount of kills/resources based on what I have, this time I was too quick though and well I paid for it, big time.
Yeah that was a expensive loss =(
Yeah, no to hurry in next time. Always take your time and stay calm. But still, trust but control yourself :D If you just had seen those dogs, looked fight or camp before attack to be sure. But you got your lesson this time :D
To KillerCore
Lowest losses, using higher units isn't for beginners, so beginners should continue making recruits and use them in most of the cases, so they don't get confused or messed up with units what costs a lot for them and needs to be kept secure. But some rich guys and those who are making iron and steel sword, can make their own calculating's but this lowest loss thing should be for medium and hard camp first. There's not many who has horses, a lot beer, iron and steel swords who are doing tutorial and easy camps :D (like killing 6 scavenger with cav :D)
And also to add skipped camp calculations could make thread more advanced one and then player can choose what way to go.
But yeah, main is done and you can add things on your choice. People can do that themselves(its not so hard). So its up to you what do you want to add.
Most camps are pretty optimized on losses i guess. and i guess so, i didn't start on steel swords till i was like level 30+ lol. anyway ill add the skipped camps section then =)Quote:
Originally Posted by bibumo
Hi,
First, very nice guide :)
Second, is it possible to kill wild mary without soldiers and longbows or is it extremely neccesary? :)
If possible I would like to avoid building tech for soldiers and longbows :)
thx!
You will need the soldier/longbow since she eats recruits as desert.
Just would like to quote this, as it's what I'm doing right now, which helps keeping the total casualties down. It considerably lowers the time it takes to clear all camps, since you don't need to stop as much and wait for more settlers.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonBk
I'm doing a full clear though, so I'm also killing the other encampments. So far I've already received 4x300 GC, which I think it's well worth the extra losses.
Just had a go at camp 4, my 200 recruits did me proud and took the camp in 1st round, 15 survived :)
Not sure if it's helpful to anybody or not but I've just done
Hard Camp 1 in Sector 9 with (50 Dogs + 40 Rangers + 110 Roughnecks) [1: 160R 14M 26S 2: 80R 12M 24S 50LB 34C (34R)]
and I'm just doing Hard Camp B (140 Rangers + 60 Roughnecks) [1: 70R 14M 36S 45LB 35C - which has left me with 22 Rangers to get on Wave 2]
Also for MT I did
Bandit Leader (Metal Tooth + 149 Rangers + 50 Roughnecks) [1: 105R + 95C (as per KillerCore because nothing else seems to simulate any better) 2: 60R 36M 14S 18B 72 LB (60R 19M)]
I wish someone told me this earlier lol - I've been making iron and steel since as soon as I was able because I thought I would need them lol - can't knock them down now!!! Hence my numbers above !!Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerCore
Yeah let alone that for instance a steel weapon chain requires a lot resources and the swords take way longer to make.
Im interested in what the war-boot is in the skippted camps in sector 9. Somebody who knows?
Camp B - I just got 300 Gold Coins, I will update the rest as I do them, unless anyone else knows alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by Kavoan
I think the only usefull loot came from sector 9. i can only remember 1000 stone though =p
When I took camp 2 I get 350 coins! 1000 marble when I took camp 5. I think there is a lot of good things in they other skippted camps!Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerCore
very very nice guide ... thank you very much :) .. its gonna be very helpful
Have anyone tried to take out wild mary without taking out all the 4 camps around her first? Can I get my soldiers to go for her after taking down 4 and 5 perhaps?
My 200 recruits took out camp 4 with 13 remaining to tell the tale btw =)
Killing camp 4 in one wave is pretty much always the case. however my calculations are based on max losses so your prepared =). Also both camps overlap the leader big time blocking those 2 camps would be hard if not impossible :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Lexidh
Added almost all skipped camps. going to add militia / longbows to extra setups as well soon. + add other players setups.
Photobucket sux btw..... :(
would be great if i got to see the map images... For sector 9 i dont know what camp fits what number now ;)
If you click the "show" button in the Sector 9 post you will see the bandit numbers in each camp, the rest you can figure out easy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nukar
Damn you photo bucket hell i'll put them on my own host.
All pictures are up and running again ^^
Maybe I'm lucky, for zone 9 and camp 4 I send 200R, winning the battle and left 16 settlers. No need to send the second 50 cav. Loot 300 coins.
4. Hard Camp (80 Dogs + 70 Rangers + 50 Roughnecks) [1: 200R (184R)]
I know =), all my calculations are with max losses and that camp can either be won or lost in the first wave. thats why i added the second wave.
Keep up the good work KillerCore :)
I started adding the loot possibilities but i will need everyone help with this =), Please enlist your loot from camps.
Make a post like this or PM me.
Zone 5 - 100 Marble
Zone 9 :
3x 1000 Coal
1x 400 Bows (Camp D & camp 7)
1x 300 Gold
1x 1000 stone
These im sure of, dont recall the others
Thanks xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Tibster
I got 300 gold form one camp and 50 longbows from another but i cant remember the other rewards.
Zone 9
Camp 1 (from your guide)
1x 1000 Beer
Camp 2
1x 100 iron swords
Camp 3
1x 1000 Hardwood Planks
Camp 5
1x 300 coins
Camp 6
1x 1000 Marble
Skipped Camp A (200 rangers)
1x 1000 coal
Skipped Camp F
1x 300 coins
Zone 8 Camp 2 - 150 Gold
Zone 8, camp 3 = 150 Bows