5th MMA

Hi BB,

Currently some players have got 5th MMA from the 'Clean Up Event' Summer 2015.

3 MMAs have been available from Easter Events (limit restricted) , 1 for gems in shop.

Leaving players entering game afterwards or not around for that event (think 3 weeks from announced to finish) with one less isn't fair imo.
Hope you will do a 'catch up' during next Easter Event.

I know that some high leveled players don't agree about this topic and so be it :)

Comment to the players not agreeing:
MMA was introduced with Easter Event 2013 - 1 MMA available.
For Easter Event 2014 there were 2 MMA to get from event (max) - so only 1 MMA if you had got 1st one in 2013.
I recall no Forum threads or objections back then with players not getting MMA in 2013 having the chance to catch up.


kind regards
kke2100

Im level 66 and have 2 mma, i get on just fine. I dont see how 3 more mma would benefit me anymore then the 2 I have now.

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Originally Posted by kke2100

Leaving players entering game afterwards or not around for that event (think 3 weeks from announced to finish) with one less isn't fair imo.
Hope you will do a 'catch up' during next Easter Event.

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Im really sorry and i know and respect you as my other game name on northisle but bit i made bold/underline makes the argument for me as to why it should be a no
Its not BB fault people either started playing game later or missed the event where could get the 5th so why should they compensate them that missed out do to either being awol from the game or even not playing then

you know me on north you know i dont even have a MMA there yes i will be going all out to get my 1st in easter event there but it wont mean i will be relying on it I actually enjoy not having one and having to rethink and adjust how i play the game there with what i have

Im sorry but 1 or 2 more MMA is not the end of the world to be missing out in my point of view

ALL generals have a use and can be used just work out what you can do with the ones you have
people can do this by looking up and using guides or use sims to make own attacks with what you have available if needs be

This whole MMA thing seems to be a regular posts on the forums and just really makes me think in all honesty people being so hung up being oh i have 1-3 mma i missed 1-2 of them kinda getting boring to say the least

to date nobody i have seen has gave any valid reason why BB should do it so others can get the other ones they missed due to them being away from game etc as they cant. its not BB fault if people miss out imo so why should they compensate them that did miss out?????

But still do like and respect you as the other me on northisle :) i just cant agree with you on this one sorry hun :(

Why only the MMA, your argument also equally applies to Grims, Dracs, Vets, Nasula, Vargus, Amslem, Bhg's, Experienced Explorers, Intrepid Explorer, Lucky Explorers, Conscientous Geologists. Floating Residences, Village schools, Recycling manufactories, Settlers 2 Hq, Spacious Storage, Easter Basket house and Gold Tower.

I dont really bother with what is fair and what is not. As this is not a competitive game it cant bother me or anyone else what other players have or dont have.

That said I think that BB needs to rethink how players get gens like mma. The game has changed and that had brought in players who have reached above level 50 in short time. Some of those players want to have more than just 1 mma to be able to do Alibaba and other big adventures at same pace as "old"players. This is not about what others have or what is fair. It is about how people want to play the game to have most fun out of it.
I am not saying anyone should have more mmas for free. Just saying it should be possible to get more with gems.

I have 4 mmas - 2 bought with gems - 2 from events, I dont need a 5th, well I would not mind having a 5th:p

I am not writing this because I want more. I am writing this because I understand those who have only one bought with gems. I dont see the logic of them having to wait for years to get more. And I dont really think it makes any sense to tell them that they have to wait because others started out with less than them. So what, the game has changed, this is a game, people are here to have fun.

There is already a tread about this - sorry if I repeated myself, but it really gets to me when those "old players" (I consider myself an old player too :) )start telling those stories about how little they started out with and how hard they struggled, so everyone else has to do that too. Who cares :p

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Originally Posted by Dorotheus

Why only the MMA, your argument also equally applies to Grims, Dracs, Vets, Nasula, Vargus, Amslem, Bhg's, Experienced Explorers, Intrepid Explorer, Lucky Explorers, Conscientous Geologists. Floating Residences, Village schools, Recycling manufactories, Settlers 2 Hq, Spacious Storage, Easter Basket house and Gold Tower.

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Generals:
Nusala, Vargus and Anslem will according to BB become available in shop this Spring.
BHG has never been available from events, 6 of those possible to buy from shop - similar to GR so why bother about those ?

The generals from events have been limited, most often at an accumulated level; why we so far have 3 MMAs available from Easter events no matter how long we have been playing the game.
The MMA from 'Clean Up Event' is still restricted to the players getting it from there.

Not going to comment on rest as not part of this thread.

It would also massively unbalance the game, a player could clear the island in a matter of hours, they would not need bread or brew or weapons and like i say that would lead to unbalanced game.

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Originally Posted by Dappadon

It would also massively unbalance the game, a player could clear the island in a matter of hours, they would not need bread or brew or weapons and like i say that would lead to unbalanced game.

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Cant really see how. And cant really see how it is making the game any more balanced or unbalanced. A relaxed player who have not bothered clearing island before, could could also do the same with the 5 mma that player had from being online for every event.

I have not tried clearing home island with 5 mma,- so cant say how fast it can be done.

I dont see a new player investing in a huge lot of gems and going in merchant and getting 5 mma right away either. Most would start by getting to know the game before using lots on money on it, so it is not a very likely scenario.

If you didn't buy a ticket you are definitely not coming in! Having a full quota of mmas, scouts is only allowed to those prestige few of us who have turned up at every event and continuing to support the game. :)

This suggestion has done the rounds a few times now. Tbh I don't care less if they do this but do feel players need to earn the extra mmas in some way. Make the extra ones gem purchase and make 5 the maximum limit on a star, as pre gempits? That way those who are allowed the extra mmas are at least giving something to supporting the game, as those who already have 5 have done by sticking with the game for a long time. Or do the same in terms of limit on star and they can gather the 5 mmas over 5 Easters......

Ok lets put it this way. Is giving you that 5th MMA going to allow you to do the same as those of us who have him ? No it's not because we also have all those other limited items which support what we do with that 5th MMA. This means by asking for just him without asking for all the rest pointless because it's not going to give you what you want.

I've asked this before and I will ask it again: Why should someone that has only been playing for 2 weeks have the same as anyone that has put five years into their game?

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Originally Posted by Dorotheus

Why only the MMA, your argument also equally applies to Grims, Dracs, Vets, Nasula, Vargus, Amslem, Bhg's, Experienced Explorers, Intrepid Explorer, Lucky Explorers, Conscientous Geologists. Floating Residences, Village schools, Recycling manufactories, Settlers 2 Hq, Spacious Storage, Easter Basket house and Gold Tower.

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This is a very good point. I have obtained all the MMAs possible, but if this suggestion were to happen I, for one, would be asking why am I not allowed to obtain the Experienced Explorers I have missed? Other players have three, so why should I have to settle for only one?

The answer for all 'missed opportunities' like these needs to be the same across the board in order to be fair. Implementing such a change would have such an unpredictable (and likely drastic) impact on the game that I severely doubt that Pandora's Box will ever be opened.

That event came out as a result of too much leftovers after every event, presents, eggs, pumpkins, footballs..., which was causing dis balance in the game overall.
So if somebody was not playing for 2,3 or 4 years before "that" event, nothing to talk about it.
Personally, I was against 5th MMA in the shop at that time.
I just remember endless discussions about calculations for event goodies :)

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Originally Posted by Tierarzt

I've asked this before and I will ask it again: Why should someone that has only been playing for 2 weeks have the same as anyone that has put five years into their game?

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You didnt get them as a reward for playing five years, you got them because you happened to be there during the event and happened to put some effort into getting event resources. Whos to say the newer player wouldnt commit the same amount of effort if he / she happened to be there ? :)

And two good reasons why it wouldnt be a bad idea to let some players get the extras :

- they might be willing to pay money for it meaning its good for the game
- it adds up to long term balance of the game, meaning smaller discrepancies between players that have been here for years and the new ones, meaning more incentive for new players to come (since they're not on lost position from the very start); once again healthy for the game

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Originally Posted by sparkz

You didnt get them as a reward for playing five years, you got them because you happened to be there during the event and happened to put some effort into getting event resources. Whos to say the newer player wouldnt commit the same amount of effort if he / she happened to be there ? :)

And two good reasons why it wouldnt be a bad idea to let some players get the extras :

- they might be willing to pay money for it meaning its good for the game
- it adds up to long term balance of the game, meaning smaller discrepancies between players that have been here for years and the new ones, meaning more incentive for new players to come (since they're not on lost position from the very start); once again healthy for the game

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Problem here is if they put in a mechanic to get them from effort it works as a disincentive towards buying them via gems brought with money.

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Originally Posted by Tierarzt

I've asked this before and I will ask it again: Why should someone that has only been playing for 2 weeks have the same as anyone that has put five years into their game?

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I ask the same.

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Originally Posted by LordBosse

I ask the same.

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And I ask why does it matter how long you played?? Why does one earn the right to be here. If you are not aware - this is a game not a job or important voluntary work.

People do this to have fun. Only one who benefits from it is the company making it, and they only does, so if we sometimes spent money on it. For that to happen we actually need those apparently pesty new players. If we dont have new who wants to play, the game will die and and those hard core "old" players will sit back sad and alone.

Seen this question before in different formats. Personally I do not care what other people have or do not have. If they want to spend hard earned money and get some more MMA or what ever, good let them spend money.
Its a business so i assume more money coming in is a good thing. Older players will benefit from getting the gens for free, or for effort rather than money.

let me get this straight.
If you joined May 2016 you should be able to get 6 MMA during Easter Event 2017 ?
Also an x amount of Vets and do this with all buildings and such as well ?

:D

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Originally Posted by kke2100

Hi BB,

Currently some players have got 5th MMA from the 'Clean Up Event' Summer 2015.

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Opens a real can of worms kke, next thing they will all be wanting the extra Veteran players got when it first came out and was given in a welcome pack, oh and the free gems from back then too? Plus all the recyclers and schools they missed, lucky explorers, etc?

As I said earlier in the thread no issue for me either way but if they want them they ought to pay gems for them so that they give something to the game.

Made me laugh seeing a level 8 player saying it was ''unfair'' that he didn't have loads of generals - had probably been playing 30mins!

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Originally Posted by inyi

let me get this straight.
If you joined May 2016 you should be able to get 6 MMA during Easter Event 2017 ?
Also an x amount of Vets and do this with all buildings and such as well ?

:D

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How about you sit down with a pencil and paper and work out just how many eggs that would require. After that try figuring out how on earth a new player would acquire that many.

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Originally Posted by sparkz

You didnt get them as a reward for playing five years, you got them because you happened to be there during the event and happened to put some effort into getting event resources. Whos to say the newer player wouldnt commit the same amount of effort if he / she happened to be there ? :)

And two good reasons why it wouldnt be a bad idea to let some players get the extras :

- they might be willing to pay money for it meaning its good for the game
- it adds up to long term balance of the game, meaning smaller discrepancies between players that have been here for years and the new ones, meaning more incentive for new players to come (since they're not on lost position from the very start); once again healthy for the game

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I really like this answer , +1.

The OP is putting forward a suggestion for discussion. He should not be hit over the head with it just because we may not agree. Balance is required in the game. New players look at high levels and wonder how they are ever going to have all those buildings and generals . So are they to be punished for not being here earlier? Longer playing people had the huge benefit of largely all being in the same boat we worked together and I think very few felt any pressure to level up - there were no carrots dangling out of reach for us. So give them the opportunity to buy a few decent generals or they can wait several years but it should be their choice.

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Originally Posted by Dorotheus

How about you sit down with a pencil and paper and work out just how many eggs that would require. After that try figuring out how on earth a new player would acquire that many.

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i was thinking about that, but then suddenly realized i can't count ;)

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Originally Posted by Mortallicus

I really like this answer , +1.

The OP is putting forward a suggestion for discussion. He should not be hit over the head with it just because we may not agree. Balance is required in the game. New players look at high levels and wonder how they are ever going to have all those buildings and generals . So are they to be punished for not being here earlier? Longer playing people had the huge benefit of largely all being in the same boat we worked together and I think very few felt any pressure to level up - there were no carrots dangling out of reach for us. So give them the opportunity to buy a few decent generals or they can wait several years but it should be their choice.

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no they are not punished for not playing earlier they start off the same way we did with tavern generals
why should new players get all what we have now???

I been playing on Northisle since july i got from level 1-50 in 53 days with mostly using tavern generals yes i currently have the majors and nusala and drac and grim but i worked hard to get them fast generals i havent spent any reward gems on any specialists or generals and like playing over there with 0 mma at the moment and if i dont manage in the event to get my 1st in easter so be it, its not gonna be the end of the world for me as all you have to do is change and adapt the way you play the game as we do it when we get better generals taverns tend to be for blocks/suicides only on longer term players and mmas, majors do most of the fighting

not having that luxury on northisle i like having to work out what i can kill with tavern generals or drac or grim or major and now nusala as we progress in the game then we should get better rewards eg generals but i feel the way of doing it in the events is fair enough and dont see the need for lets give them it all at start what is the point?

if lower levels wonder how they get them buildings generals etc well its called time and patience from what i can see settlers has never been a "fast" game and takes a lot of both time and patience to get things you achieve to get.

balance in game well lets see you cant do adventures i dont think it is until level 26 anyways then its the likes of bounty hunter thats the 1st one you do not need 1 mma let alone 5 to complete that 100 cav in a tavern general gets that done with 0 losses
then you move on to horseback say, again you dont need MMAs etc to do that can do that with all tavern generals and blocks included if you want to

so balance is in the game they get what they need at certain stages in the game to meet there level requirements regarding generals
and if they do buy gems or use reward ones they can get a variety of generals/specialists if they choose to from the start

personally i think some are to hung up on this we need 5th coz i missed out (thats it you missed out due to you being missing when it happened that is not BB's fault therefore why should they compensate you for missing out?)

i think those that think lower levels should get all instantly basically without waiting and doing what older players had to do kinda silly in my view as the game isnt a fast game anyways so what is the rush really to give them it all claiming it balances game out, when it dont it might make a few feel better but hasn't took the time and patience that everyone else has had to do to achieve them themselves and the fact that settlers meant to be a slow game
anyways

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before certain people went a little bit mad it seemed so thread got closed this was the latest one Re the MMA thing Here with a variety of views

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Originally Posted by lulu10093

so balance is in the game they get what they need at certain stages in the game to meet there level requirements regarding generals

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There was no balance from the start and the concept of balance has been ignored for years, only making it into dev/ cm discussions in the last few months.

There is no issues with new people having to unlock certain features while putting enough effort. What you are missing though is :

- new people are in severe disadvantage having to produce higher tier weapons while there is plenty active players that were playing where you could get hundreds of thousands of those from adventures
- new people will never have a chance to get frozen manors raining from the sky like it was during christmas 2013
- they will most likely never have a chance to play dozens of the adventures that ave you either debuffs or books (SE and bandit nest followups that were widely available but are not anymore)
- they even have the drop nerfed for some of the regular adventures for the reasons that are unclear (and noone ever bothered to explain it)

you could probably find ten other things that puts new players in severe disadvantage comparing to old ones, and as I mentioned before, none of those are in any way related to anyone putting in any effort, eveything is "you happened to be playing before the nerf" kind of thing.

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Originally Posted by sparkz

There was no balance from the start and the concept of balance has been ignored for years, only making it into dev/ cm discussions in the last few months.

There is no issues with new people having to unlock certain features while putting enough effort. What you are missing though is :

- new people are in severe disadvantage having to produce higher tier weapons while there is plenty active players that were playing where you could get hundreds of thousands of those from adventures
- new people will never have a chance to get frozen manors raining from the sky like it was during christmas 2013
- they will most likely never have a chance to play dozens of the adventures that ave you either debuffs or books (SE and bandit nest followups that were widely available but are not anymore)
- they even have the drop nerfed for some of the regular adventures for the reasons that are unclear (and noone ever bothered to explain it)

you could probably find ten other things that puts new players in severe disadvantage comparing to old ones, and as I mentioned before, none of those are in any way related to anyone putting in any effort, eveything is "you happened to be playing before the nerf" kind of thing.

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Yes you are absolutely right.
one more disadvantage is the number of explorers- especially the lucky explorer, they bring home lots of event resources and that way old player get a lead there also. Making that effect event stronger when there is no way of getting event resources by being active in the game, like doing adventures.

BB can do lots of things to balance things. I dont think they ever considered this topic much. You cant get mj until level 47. They could do the same with mma´s and other strong gens - allowing only more of them when you reach a certain level.

I suspect that balance is not the reason some players dont want it to be possible to get more mma for gems.

No it is simply the "I dont want them to have same as I do, I earned it because I played longer, It proves I am in a different league" We have many other way to put this kind of selfishness in my own language, but cant find the right words in English :p

What I like in this game and keep me going when the adventures starts to bore me is the social aspect. For that to be at the best we need a mixture of old and new players in the game. We need new players and we need them to want to stay. It does not help much if we treat them as 2nd grade.

I have not read the entire thread so I apologise if this has already been said.

I think if BB can set the merchant so that only the champions a player does not have from the Christmas event will be available for gems then it should be possible to set the limit for MMAs (and other generals) to a maximum that is available right now from events, and people who missed out on them could purchase them for gems.

For example if someone has 3 MMAs from events then they could buy 2 more for gems (as right now everyone can buy 1 for gems). If someone just starts out the game, they could buy 5 for gems.

Maybe some level restriction or time restriction could be introduced here so that level 1 players do not start out with 5 MMAs because IMO those tend to leave the game early for lack of challenges.

Ok so I have been here a while :) but I only have 4 MMA's due to never storing event resources didn't see the point of ripping people off with them tbh. Do I think that I should be able to get the 5th one.... NO! because if I wanted it that badly I should've used gems & bought it when it was available, missed opportunity there but oh well point is if u weren't here or didn't get for other reasons its on you. saying its not fair when it is and demanding another is in itself unfair on players who have put in the effort/gems

if there are more players with more stuff there is more stuff going on. like ls swap sale. which is a plus to old. so why keep new down?

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Originally Posted by sparkz

There was no balance from the start and the concept of balance has been ignored for years, only making it into dev/ cm discussions in the last few months.

There is no issues with new people having to unlock certain features while putting enough effort. What you are missing though is :

- new people are in severe disadvantage having to produce higher tier weapons while there is plenty active players that were playing where you could get hundreds of thousands of those from adventures
- new people will never have a chance to get frozen manors raining from the sky like it was during christmas 2013
- they will most likely never have a chance to play dozens of the adventures that ave you either debuffs or books (SE and bandit nest followups that were widely available but are not anymore)
- they even have the drop nerfed for some of the regular adventures for the reasons that are unclear (and noone ever bothered to explain it)

you could probably find ten other things that puts new players in severe disadvantage comparing to old ones, and as I mentioned before, none of those are in any way related to anyone putting in any effort, eveything is "you happened to be playing before the nerf" kind of thing.

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yep we did used to get loads weapons etc in addy loots and these days have to make them or do what i do trade them in on TO on my other account i don't make weapons as it is cheaper to just trade them in and have been doing that since having a trade office in the game over there. loads high end players sell weapons in bulk if you get to know some in game they say "if you like i will give you 1-1 BS for copper ore. might not seem much but if your a lower level like i was at the time and had loads copper ore building up 10k used to get me 10k bs and not have to make the bars then swords etc then as i got more i could get i dunno say 25-50k bs for copper ore if i dont have enough gold coins just to buy them etc (cant remember what level it was)


as for the books and buffs addys i haven't played lots of them if anything probably played 2 over the last 2-3 yrs and that purely for guide making purposes and traded them addys in and still make them in my bookbinder the slow way even though i have the manu and codex recipe from excelsior

the FMs you right they probably wont get them again im not like them that want loads FM as they can fit in more than a mag res i still have loads mag res's on this account map and if i think probably maybe 1 or 2 FM (not loaded game up yet as always check forum 1st) other account have 0 FM there but its no big loss they cost to much to buy anyways and who ever gets invasion of nords to drop from nords addy really lucky to have a chance to win one in that even though they would prob get iron mine lol

the drop in follow on addys definatly needs to be looked in to by BB though as you get quests at lv 50ish i think it was to do 2 follow on addys and if you cant get any to drop in the loots what is the point having them quests then??? as either the quests need changed or they need to put back the chances of follow on addys in loot again to make that fair for definite.

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Originally Posted by Smiffy2204

Ok so I have been here a while :) but I only have 4 MMA's due to never storing event resources didn't see the point of ripping people off with them tbh. Do I think that I should be able to get the 5th one.... NO! because if I wanted it that badly I should've used gems & bought it when it was available, missed opportunity there but oh well point is if u weren't here or didn't get for other reasons its on you. saying its not fair when it is and demanding another is in itself unfair on players who have put in the effort/gems

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that's what i think also if they missed out it has to be their fault not BB's nothing to do with

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Originally Posted by Urd123

No it is simply the "I dont want them to have same as I do, I earned it because I played longer, It proves I am in a different league" We have many other way to put this kind of selfishness in my own language, but cant find the right words in English :p

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Loads of emotive words like etc being thrown around in this thread. Surely it's not about fairness etc but about time? Yes, let anyone have 5/6/7 etc mmas but if they happened not to be for an event then they would need to buy them with gems, seems painless enough. Yes, not having been here when mmas were 1st available at Easter is irritating but the same will be true next for those who missed the 2016 Christmas event and so missed out on the general in the calendar. If BB allow those of us who happened to be here to but all 3 new generals again then in a short time we will have a similar thread about 'why do some players have 2 Nusala'. By the way, 10mins ago someone on Northisle help chat was complaining that they had missed out on the calendar and so couldn't get the free general.

i think is what we need to do is find out who has the most of everything and when new players join the game give them the same. will that make it fair and stop newer players crying coz they dont have what longer term players have?

this subject has been done to death. i thought u had to be 13 to play settlers, but it doesn;t seem that way sometimes!

You could of course have the missed event items in merchant for gems but locked till you reach a certain level. I think one at level 40 and 50 would tempt those hitting those `quitting' levels to carry on with an extra incentive of goodies once they get there. Oldies will still have the comfort of saying it was more difficult in their day and newbies would still have to put a little effort in, and BB would get some gems ( unless they took their time and waited for the free gem option )

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Originally Posted by Larili

You could of course have the missed event items in merchant for gems but locked till you reach a certain level. I think one at level 40 and 50 would tempt those hitting those `quitting' levels to carry on with an extra incentive of goodies once they get there. Oldies will still have the comfort of saying it was more difficult in their day and newbies would still have to put a little effort in, and BB would get some gems ( unless they took their time and waited for the free gem option )

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Great idea it brings the previous suggestions together neatly.

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Originally Posted by vigabrand

i think is what we need to do is find out who has the most of everything and when new players join the game give them the same. will that make it fair and stop newer players crying coz they dont have what longer term players have?

this subject has been done to death. i thought u had to be 13 to play settlers, but it doesn;t seem that way sometimes!

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It is not about who has what and why. (Yes for some of the old players it seems to be).

It is about starting this game when ever you do so and be able to play it at the fullest even if you have not played it 5 years. You dont need gold towers or what ever to do that, who really cares about gold towers and frozen manors)
Doing ft and alibaba with one mma and the other gens we can get in merchant is not really what I would call playing the game at is fullest. For that I think it is more fun with more mmas. So why do people need to be here 3- 4 years to get more?

That and the effect the accumulated explorers and the fact that we get event resources from those, make the game favor "old" players. (I consider my self as one of the old,- so it is not about me :p. I only have 3 golden towers - and so what - they take up room and they dont make you rich- why would I want one more?)

This is not a competitive game - so no reason to be envious of what others have you dont have. Could not care less if someone had 10 mmas - and if they payed real money to get them - that is their business.

i personally think mma is very over rated. He is amazing, and im sure if i had one before lvl 50 he would have saved allot of time but running tailors he is a passenger mainly. Obv id like more but i dont think its fair to say new players like myself deserve the right to buy upto 5, in keeping with what some have earnt through events. the fact i cant ever see us having more than 1 of each champion, yet we can have multiple mmas, shows he is good but not something u def cant live without.

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Originally Posted by Smiffy2204

Ok so I have been here a while :) but I only have 4 MMA's due to never storing event resources didn't see the point of ripping people off with them tbh. Do I think that I should be able to get the 5th one.... NO! because if I wanted it that badly I should've used gems & bought it when it was available, missed opportunity there but oh well point is if u weren't here or didn't get for other reasons its on you. saying its not fair when it is and demanding another is in itself unfair on players who have put in the effort/gems

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This.
I have been playing for 2.5 years, and have 4 MMA - 1 x gems, 1 x Easter 2015, 1 x Easter 2016 and one from that Summer Event - not because I hoarded resources, but because I traded during that event. My choice. My husband has been playing for the same amount of time, didn't trade during that event and so only has three MMAs. His choice. You play the game the way that suits you, and if you want the extras - you work hard and grab the advantages when you can.

who has what from when - you join in 2012 ( like many of us did ) and you play the events and you get better each event as you grow , you join in 2016 ( as many people have ) and you play the events and you get better each event as you grow , you have new players join in 2017 - and guess what ??? and you play the events and you get better each event as you grow !!

I play the simpsons tapped out on my phone - I started when I got a phone that could play it though it had been going a while so I missed out on a few events , I had just missed the stonecutters as it finished a couple of months before I started playing . some time later they had a black Friday sale and I could buy the stonecutters temple with premium currency ( donuts) so I splashed out and bought the donuts to buy the stonecutters :D almost all events are one off there and sometimes EA re-release for donuts what were previously achieved form tapping in event , you can buy them or let them go your choice . and so it should be here you were not here at that time so you missed that event or were new and didn't achieve as too low a level . maybe bb may do a sale for gems of long ago rewards and if you already earned it you cant buy it - that's their choice if they want to do that.

Thread closed due to the normalisation of MMA (and other Specialists) limits in the shop.