5th MMA

[lulu10093]

There was no balance from the start and the concept of balance has been ignored for years, only making it into dev/ cm discussions in the last few months.

There is no issues with new people having to unlock certain features while putting enough effort. What you are missing though is :

- new people are in severe disadvantage having to produce higher tier weapons while there is plenty active players that were playing where you could get hundreds of thousands of those from adventures
- new people will never have a chance to get frozen manors raining from the sky like it was during christmas 2013
- they will most likely never have a chance to play dozens of the adventures that ave you either debuffs or books (SE and bandit nest followups that were widely available but are not anymore)
- they even have the drop nerfed for some of the regular adventures for the reasons that are unclear (and noone ever bothered to explain it)

you could probably find ten other things that puts new players in severe disadvantage comparing to old ones, and as I mentioned before, none of those are in any way related to anyone putting in any effort, eveything is "you happened to be playing before the nerf" kind of thing.

yep we did used to get loads weapons etc in addy loots and these days have to make them or do what i do trade them in on TO on my other account i don't make weapons as it is cheaper to just trade them in and have been doing that since having a trade office in the game over there. loads high end players sell weapons in bulk if you get to know some in game they say "if you like i will give you 1-1 BS for copper ore. might not seem much but if your a lower level like i was at the time and had loads copper ore building up 10k used to get me 10k bs and not have to make the bars then swords etc then as i got more i could get i dunno say 25-50k bs for copper ore if i dont have enough gold coins just to buy them etc (cant remember what level it was)


as for the books and buffs addys i haven't played lots of them if anything probably played 2 over the last 2-3 yrs and that purely for guide making purposes and traded them addys in and still make them in my bookbinder the slow way even though i have the manu and codex recipe from excelsior

the FMs you right they probably wont get them again im not like them that want loads FM as they can fit in more than a mag res i still have loads mag res's on this account map and if i think probably maybe 1 or 2 FM (not loaded game up yet as always check forum 1st) other account have 0 FM there but its no big loss they cost to much to buy anyways and who ever gets invasion of nords to drop from nords addy really lucky to have a chance to win one in that even though they would prob get iron mine lol

the drop in follow on addys definatly needs to be looked in to by BB though as you get quests at lv 50ish i think it was to do 2 follow on addys and if you cant get any to drop in the loots what is the point having them quests then??? as either the quests need changed or they need to put back the chances of follow on addys in loot again to make that fair for definite.

Ok so I have been here a while but I only have 4 MMA's due to never storing event resources didn't see the point of ripping people off with them tbh. Do I think that I should be able to get the 5th one.... NO! because if I wanted it that badly I should've used gems & bought it when it was available, missed opportunity there but oh well point is if u weren't here or didn't get for other reasons its on you. saying its not fair when it is and demanding another is in itself unfair on players who have put in the effort/gems

that's what i think also if they missed out it has to be their fault not BB's nothing to do with

No it is simply the "I dont want them to have same as I do, I earned it because I played longer, It proves I am in a different league" We have many other way to put this kind of selfishness in my own language, but cant find the right words in English

[lordloocan]

Loads of emotive words like etc being thrown around in this thread. Surely it's not about fairness etc but about time? Yes, let anyone have 5/6/7 etc mmas but if they happened not to be for an event then they would need to buy them with gems, seems painless enough. Yes, not having been here when mmas were 1st available at Easter is irritating but the same will be true next for those who missed the 2016 Christmas event and so missed out on the general in the calendar. If BB allow those of us who happened to be here to but all 3 new generals again then in a short time we will have a similar thread about 'why do some players have 2 Nusala'. By the way, 10mins ago someone on Northisle help chat was complaining that they had missed out on the calendar and so couldn't get the free general.

[vigabrand]

i think is what we need to do is find out who has the most of everything and when new players join the game give them the same. will that make it fair and stop newer players crying coz they dont have what longer term players have?

this subject has been done to death. i thought u had to be 13 to play settlers, but it doesn;t seem that way sometimes!

[Larili]

You could of course have the missed event items in merchant for gems but locked till you reach a certain level. I think one at level 40 and 50 would tempt those hitting those `quitting' levels to carry on with an extra incentive of goodies once they get there. Oldies will still have the comfort of saying it was more difficult in their day and newbies would still have to put a little effort in, and BB would get some gems ( unless they took their time and waited for the free gem option )

[Mortallicus]

You could of course have the missed event items in merchant for gems but locked till you reach a certain level. I think one at level 40 and 50 would tempt those hitting those `quitting' levels to carry on with an extra incentive of goodies once they get there. Oldies will still have the comfort of saying it was more difficult in their day and newbies would still have to put a little effort in, and BB would get some gems ( unless they took their time and waited for the free gem option )

Great idea it brings the previous suggestions together neatly.

[Urd123]

i think is what we need to do is find out who has the most of everything and when new players join the game give them the same. will that make it fair and stop newer players crying coz they dont have what longer term players have?

this subject has been done to death. i thought u had to be 13 to play settlers, but it doesn;t seem that way sometimes!

It is not about who has what and why. (Yes for some of the old players it seems to be).

It is about starting this game when ever you do so and be able to play it at the fullest even if you have not played it 5 years. You dont need gold towers or what ever to do that, who really cares about gold towers and frozen manors)
Doing ft and alibaba with one mma and the other gens we can get in merchant is not really what I would call playing the game at is fullest. For that I think it is more fun with more mmas. So why do people need to be here 3- 4 years to get more?

That and the effect the accumulated explorers and the fact that we get event resources from those, make the game favor "old" players. (I consider my self as one of the old,- so it is not about me . I only have 3 golden towers - and so what - they take up room and they dont make you rich- why would I want one more?)

This is not a competitive game - so no reason to be envious of what others have you dont have. Could not care less if someone had 10 mmas - and if they payed real money to get them - that is their business.

[JohnTheDon1980]

i personally think mma is very over rated. He is amazing, and im sure if i had one before lvl 50 he would have saved allot of time but running tailors he is a passenger mainly. Obv id like more but i dont think its fair to say new players like myself deserve the right to buy upto 5, in keeping with what some have earnt through events. the fact i cant ever see us having more than 1 of each champion, yet we can have multiple mmas, shows he is good but not something u def cant live without.

[Melhmqn]

Ok so I have been here a while but I only have 4 MMA's due to never storing event resources didn't see the point of ripping people off with them tbh. Do I think that I should be able to get the 5th one.... NO! because if I wanted it that badly I should've used gems & bought it when it was available, missed opportunity there but oh well point is if u weren't here or didn't get for other reasons its on you. saying its not fair when it is and demanding another is in itself unfair on players who have put in the effort/gems

This.
I have been playing for 2.5 years, and have 4 MMA - 1 x gems, 1 x Easter 2015, 1 x Easter 2016 and one from that Summer Event - not because I hoarded resources, but because I traded during that event. My choice. My husband has been playing for the same amount of time, didn't trade during that event and so only has three MMAs. His choice. You play the game the way that suits you, and if you want the extras - you work hard and grab the advantages when you can.

[neilegend]

who has what from when - you join in 2012 ( like many of us did ) and you play the events and you get better each event as you grow , you join in 2016 ( as many people have ) and you play the events and you get better each event as you grow , you have new players join in 2017 - and guess what ??? and you play the events and you get better each event as you grow !!

I play the simpsons tapped out on my phone - I started when I got a phone that could play it though it had been going a while so I missed out on a few events , I had just missed the stonecutters as it finished a couple of months before I started playing . some time later they had a black Friday sale and I could buy the stonecutters temple with premium currency ( donuts) so I splashed out and bought the donuts to buy the stonecutters almost all events are one off there and sometimes EA re-release for donuts what were previously achieved form tapping in event , you can buy them or let them go your choice . and so it should be here you were not here at that time so you missed that event or were new and didn't achieve as too low a level . maybe bb may do a sale for gems of long ago rewards and if you already earned it you cant buy it - that's their choice if they want to do that.

[BB_Saqui]

Thread closed due to the normalisation of MMA (and other Specialists) limits in the shop.